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AIBU to dislike my nephew's behaviour so much that I don't want him in our house?

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SewingMum46 · 05/06/2017 12:47

I have one brother who lives about three hours drive away and consequently we don't see much of him, his wife or their son (my only nephew). He has a high-pressure and highly paid job in comparison to my husband and I. We have three children, the youngest of whom is a little older than my nephew. Not being particularly well off, we have always tried to do the best we could for our children and encouraged them to work hard and be nice to people. They have all done well at school (eldest is now at a very good university) and although I know everyone who posts this kind of thread says their own children are perfect and well-mannered, they really are mature, polite and well-behaved. They are also quirky, argumentative, clever and funny. We don't have much disposable income and they have often had very simple gifts for birthdays and Christmas - and they've never either asked for much or sulked when they got something that didn't cost very much. They have always been taught to eat and appreciate what is put in front of them at mealtimes and to be polite - basic table manners, being sociable, staying at the table until everyone has finished eating etc.

In contrast, my nephew, who is in about year 4 or 5 at school, has been indulged since he was a baby. Toys at the table at every meal, and released into the wild to run around in restaurants since he was a toddler. He won't eat what is put in front of him and his parents will leave the table as a meal is served to find his favourite toy - meaning we all sit waiting out of politeness while the charade goes on and our food goes cold. Anything he doesn't like gets picked off his plate whilst he pulls a face and puts it on the placemat next to his plate. He barely speaks to us and will turn up his nose at the gifts we have given him for Christmas and birthdays - hardly surprising as his parents have been conditioned not to pass a toyshop without buying him something, and he's frequently taken out to eat whilst for us eating out is a special treat for a big achievement. Much of his diet seems to consist of sweet stuff or junk food surrounded by pools of ketchup, and he just won't eat vegetables.

When he was very young I was told that his parents didn't intend to discipline him "in case it dents his confidence". On their last visit they literally popped in on their way elsewhere and only stayed for about 20 minutes. My nephew, despite being asked more than once, refused to put down the book he was carrying and did not make any effort at all to engage with us. He was asked to say goodbye to us but walked straight past me reading his book and shaking his head. He consented to go back and hug my youngest child but ignored me, my husband and his other cousin. His parents just made disappointed noises but didn't actually tell him off. I was very hurt and felt completely belittled by his behaviour - but more by his parents not telling him it was unacceptable, taking the book off him and telling him to be polite to his family.

I've tried explaining to my brother how upset I am at the way he behaves - he's just plain rude and there is never any comeback from his parents, in fact they often laugh at his behaviour. I'm told that they are "aware of a problem" and "actively trying to find better childcare to sort out his behaviour" - but surely it's not just me that thinks they need to sort it out themselves as his parents and actually act when he behaves badly instead of laughing it off? I have been taking this for almost a decade now - would it be unreasonable of me to say I just don't want to see them until they all act a little more politely towards us?

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LittleBeautyBelle · 07/06/2017 00:04

He's a little boy....your post sounds awful. You don't like your brother or you don't like his wife, or both....and your dislike spills over to their son. That's what it sounds like to me.

I think they should avoid you if you want to know the truth. Why cause problems where there are none?

MaisyPops · 07/06/2017 07:19

Not all children of wealthy parents are spoiled and when they do get given expensive gifts who are you to say they are not appreciated?
And you quite clearly didn't bother to read the sentence or so before where I've said it's not all of them (that's what the word SOME means). Or have you just selectively quoted to have a little complain? Hmm

As for how do I know, because these kids have every material possession going (e.g. urban decay make up at 13, Michael Kors bags for school) but then every couple of weeks they are off at aunt's or grandma's for a few days because parents are off here there and everywhere, they complain that their parents haven't come to see their sports matches or their plays, we get notes saying home aren't coming to parents evening and can we get all the teachers to ring them invidiually. Or they end up doing school pickuos for younger siblings or regular baby sitting beyond whats standard for other kids. The way the children talk about home tells us they don't spend much time with their parents.

Speak to youth workers in the area and they were the ones who said 'money rich. Time poor'. You can lecture me all you like on the 'some people can afford to buy...' the fact is there are children who have lots of possessions and labels but don't really see their parents much for quality time.

MaisyPops · 07/06/2017 07:20

They LIKE having the possessions. The kids are lovely. But from what they say to us, support staff and youth workers they actually wpuld probably rather they saw their parents a little more.

DirtyChaiLatte · 07/06/2017 07:58

Do exactly what you want OP and go no communication with your brother, SIL and nephew.

Then when people ask why, tell them because the child is rude and hurt your adult feelings.

Well done for being such a super family yourself and for being so perfect. Give yourself a pat on the back.

If other people aren't as perfect as you are, then by all means cut them ALL out.

chocolatemademefat · 07/06/2017 08:29

Buy him a pizza for lunch and let him get on with it. Don't stop eating if he leaves the table - even if his parents go with him.

He's your nephew - a member of your family so surely that's enough reason to make allowances. So you may have better behaved children - that's to your credit. Do you want him to grow up remembering you as the aunt who didn't want him in her house?

supermoon100 · 07/06/2017 09:29

I know a child like that but it's got jack all to do with income. The child is indulged despite the families low income. I also know children from high income families who eat out alot and what ever else you think seems to go with being a child of a wealthy family and their kids have lovely manners. Your kids sound great but I also think you are being over judgemental

Jux · 07/06/2017 09:51

My cousin has a boy who was very like this. His nose in a book all the time, grunts for chat, maybe a nod hello and goodbye.

He got a First from Oxford and is a biochemist or something now, and Uni lecturer, and research scientist whose papers are being very well recieved. He's doing groundbreaking research.

He's become a very nice chap and is happily settled with a woman who is equally scarily intelligent and equally nice. It's a pleasure to see them.

Give him time. He may change the world.

brasty · 07/06/2017 10:25

I had my nose in a book throughout my childhood. And I would have been told off for a lack of manners if I had behaved like this.

Anatidae · 07/06/2017 10:33

If he was 24, you'd have a point.

But he's 4.

And there's a lot of resentment in your post. I grew up poor as a church mouse, and I will darn well buy my son toys if I want to. You don't spoil kids with things, you spoil them by teaching them that things are more important than people.

He's four years old ffs! And you want to ban him from your house? That's really awful. You clearly resent your brother and are taking it out on a four year old.

I'm sure your kids have been well brought up and are delightful, but you need to give your head a wobble on this one. He is 4. Years. Old.

Mumoftu · 07/06/2017 10:40

The op had said he's 9 (in year 4).

CrazedZombie · 07/06/2017 10:49

Sometimes people need more than 20 minutes to warm up to social situations. I think that expecting hugs and being annoyed that he read his book rather than engaged with you is unreasonable. Hugs are a privilege not a requirement so you shouldn't expect them.

With regards to the meals, if your brother and wife are faffing then just announce that you're going to start because you're hungry. If food is actually going cold then I'm assuming that they are spending ages looking for toys (15 minutes? More?) Some people wouldn't care if you started with them while they did what they needed to.

Your nephew's mealtime behaviour like picking out bits he doesn't like and putting them on the placemat were taught by his parents so you need to direct your irritation at them rather than the child. Do you serve food on plates rather than put everything in serving bowls and people help themselves? If you serve directly on plates would it help if you asked his parents to dish him up?

Your kids' food habits are probably more nature than nurture btw. You seem very sure that it's the opposite but there's a big dose of luck when it comes to food acceptance.

Do you ask the parents what nephew wants as gifts? Sometimes, you don't need to spend much eg 5 packets of Match Attax might be more wanted than a £50 remote controlled car.

Thestaristoofaraway · 07/06/2017 11:24

I'm going to be honest. My nephew is the exact same way and do you know what? I begin to eat my dinner whether he is there or not.

RandomDent · 07/06/2017 11:53

You know that sketch in the League of Gentlemen when the Dentons sit at the table for two hours waiting for Benjamin to get up so they can have breakfast? That.

Just don't offer him Aqua Vita... :o

LaurieMarlow · 07/06/2017 11:53

I'm confused by the supposed 9 year old who needs his favourite toys for mealtimes. And letting food go cold while he's accommodated is just NUTS. But I suspect there's a a fair amount of artistic 'license' going on here.

OP, clearly not everyone is as perfect as yourself and your super children, but cutting these people out of your life would seem a bit foolhardy. Who would be left to socialise with?

Haffiana · 07/06/2017 12:11

Haven't read the whole thread, but I do wonder that people associate manners with character or personality. They aren't the same thing at all. One is a learned set of behaviours and the other is what a person really is like. A perfectly well behaved and polite person can be a cesspit of negativity, jealousy and depravity.

It seems you value one above the other. Oddly enough despite your love affair with good behaviour and politeness you appear to be extremely judgemental and envious.

ArchieStar · 07/06/2017 12:35

Somehow I don't think OP is coming back...

ScarlettFreestone · 07/06/2017 14:41

I'm not surprised the poor OP hasn't returned.

I think the thread has been harsh to be honest.

Having widely different parenting styles to other family members can be extremely difficult.

Clearly the OP's choice wording hasn't endeared her to the posters on this thread but I'm surprised it hasn't been leavened by a little more sympathy tbh.

MaisyPops · 07/06/2017 19:42

Agreed scarletr
This thread has been a classic 'you can't dare to say anything about any badly behaved or rude child' and despite some measured posters once the hive mentality starts on personal attacks it's not worth the OP returning.

roundaboutthetown · 07/06/2017 20:49

I note the OP has been taking this behaviour for nearly a decade, now, so obviously this nine year old boy was just as rude when he was a newborn baby! Grin

Letting your own food go cold waiting fo people who clearly do not stand on that sort of ceremony is just somewhat inanely placing rigid formality over common sense. Someone who does not think it rude to be late sitting down at a table also does not think it rude for others to have started without them. Social conventions are supposed to ease social occasions, not make them uncomfortable for everyone. Also, since you clearly do not like your nephew, OP, I am amazed you were not secretly relieved he just read his book quietly when he came to visit - surely a huge improvement on hitting people and destroying things?

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