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AIBU to dislike my nephew's behaviour so much that I don't want him in our house?

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SewingMum46 · 05/06/2017 12:47

I have one brother who lives about three hours drive away and consequently we don't see much of him, his wife or their son (my only nephew). He has a high-pressure and highly paid job in comparison to my husband and I. We have three children, the youngest of whom is a little older than my nephew. Not being particularly well off, we have always tried to do the best we could for our children and encouraged them to work hard and be nice to people. They have all done well at school (eldest is now at a very good university) and although I know everyone who posts this kind of thread says their own children are perfect and well-mannered, they really are mature, polite and well-behaved. They are also quirky, argumentative, clever and funny. We don't have much disposable income and they have often had very simple gifts for birthdays and Christmas - and they've never either asked for much or sulked when they got something that didn't cost very much. They have always been taught to eat and appreciate what is put in front of them at mealtimes and to be polite - basic table manners, being sociable, staying at the table until everyone has finished eating etc.

In contrast, my nephew, who is in about year 4 or 5 at school, has been indulged since he was a baby. Toys at the table at every meal, and released into the wild to run around in restaurants since he was a toddler. He won't eat what is put in front of him and his parents will leave the table as a meal is served to find his favourite toy - meaning we all sit waiting out of politeness while the charade goes on and our food goes cold. Anything he doesn't like gets picked off his plate whilst he pulls a face and puts it on the placemat next to his plate. He barely speaks to us and will turn up his nose at the gifts we have given him for Christmas and birthdays - hardly surprising as his parents have been conditioned not to pass a toyshop without buying him something, and he's frequently taken out to eat whilst for us eating out is a special treat for a big achievement. Much of his diet seems to consist of sweet stuff or junk food surrounded by pools of ketchup, and he just won't eat vegetables.

When he was very young I was told that his parents didn't intend to discipline him "in case it dents his confidence". On their last visit they literally popped in on their way elsewhere and only stayed for about 20 minutes. My nephew, despite being asked more than once, refused to put down the book he was carrying and did not make any effort at all to engage with us. He was asked to say goodbye to us but walked straight past me reading his book and shaking his head. He consented to go back and hug my youngest child but ignored me, my husband and his other cousin. His parents just made disappointed noises but didn't actually tell him off. I was very hurt and felt completely belittled by his behaviour - but more by his parents not telling him it was unacceptable, taking the book off him and telling him to be polite to his family.

I've tried explaining to my brother how upset I am at the way he behaves - he's just plain rude and there is never any comeback from his parents, in fact they often laugh at his behaviour. I'm told that they are "aware of a problem" and "actively trying to find better childcare to sort out his behaviour" - but surely it's not just me that thinks they need to sort it out themselves as his parents and actually act when he behaves badly instead of laughing it off? I have been taking this for almost a decade now - would it be unreasonable of me to say I just don't want to see them until they all act a little more politely towards us?

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YoloSwaggins · 05/06/2017 13:43

in comparison to my husband and I

My husband and me.

Areyoulocal · 05/06/2017 13:43

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DailyMailReadersAreThick · 05/06/2017 13:43

I remember going to visit my granddad, who I hardly ever saw, at about that age. I had no idea what to say to this virtual stranger who was 70 years older than me and who I knew hardly anything about. I still remember him commenting, "God, it's like trying to get blood out of a stone, talking to her."

YABVU to put so much on the shoulders of this little boy.

But his parents do sound absolutely shit, and I think you'd be getting different responses if you'd left the wanky stuff out of your post AND put the blame where it lies - on your brother, not your nephew.

Fruitcocktail6 · 05/06/2017 13:43

He doesn't sound very pleasant, but it doesn't sound like you have to spend much time with him so I would just ignore it. Don't feel belittled by a child, you are a grown woman.

As for letting your food go cold while you wait, that's on you, definitely not on him. Talk about being a martyr.

Mumoftu · 05/06/2017 13:44

The nephew is 9 or 10. The op isn't sure.....

YoloSwaggins · 05/06/2017 13:44

YABU. "when he was very young" isn't your nephew only 4 or 5 now?

He is TEN

fleshmarketclose · 05/06/2017 13:47

I find some of my nieces and nephews difficult and I daresay my siblings find my own dc annoying at times too seeing as each person has different values and personalities. I wouldn't say I parented better than my siblings more that I seem to have been blessed with quiet,thoughtful
and mostly compliant children and some of my nephews and nieces are quite the opposite in spite of super human efforts from at least one sibling.
When they were all younger we'd meet at a park and share a picnic as they got older we'd meet at bowling or a theme park that way we managed not to annoy each other too much.
You could try meeting on neutral ground and see if that helps.

babymouse · 05/06/2017 13:48

Not your monkey, not your circus.

Be glad he isn't destructive and ignore the behaviour you don't like.

(Btw I have nephew's that are imho very spoiled, but I don't let their bad behaviour affect what I'm doing - I just ignore and let their parents get on with it)

SuperFlyHigh · 05/06/2017 13:49

You catch more bees with honey!

Ok so because of your DCs behaviour this child seems brattish to you but unless mahoosive drip feed you're being unreasonable.

He doesn't sound especially rude and he will know, you, his aunt dislikes him...

Mumoftu · 05/06/2017 13:49

If he is 10 or 11 he would be in year 5. If he is 8 or 9 he'd be in year 4. The op said he is in about year 4 or 5 so she's estimating his age at somewhere between 9-11! Do you send your nephew birthday cards op?

QueenOfRubovia · 05/06/2017 13:49

I have trouble getting my face out of a book when it's getting a bit exciting.

YABU. As pps have pointed out, I wouldn't really see this as 'bad behaviour', maybe a little bit rude, but he could have reasons that you don't know about.
And nobody should be coerced into hugging somebody they don't want to hug. Maybe, as you don't see them very often, you all lack familiarity and he finds it painfully embarrassing to show affection that he doesn't feel. Also, he could have picked up that you don't like him very much.

In your shoes, I'd be as nice as I could be each time I saw him, and try and foster a closer, more affectionate relationship.

HildaOg · 05/06/2017 13:52

Why would you stop eating and let your meal go cold? If the parents want to let theirs go cold looking for a toy then let them. Ignore and carry on.

You're offended by what he eats? Seriously...

As for eating out, if he's behaving badly while eating out then my sympathy to the other diners but eating out often isn't wrong. Lots of people like the social aspect of 'going somewhere' and if you're busy it's much more relaxing to have someone else do the work for you.

If he's not appreciative of the presents you buy then don't buy him any.

Why do you take it personally that he wouldn't look up from his book? Maybe he has anxiety issues or other problems you're unaware of. It's irrelevant. He's a kid. He's not wrecking your house, behaving aggressively or being verbally rude, his big sin seems to be that he's not giving you attention and behaving as you would like.

Yabu. He's not doing anything to affect you negatively, you're choosing to be annoyed and offended because he's not raised and behaving as you think he should. You can't expect other children to be what you would like.

disastrousflapjack · 05/06/2017 13:52

Just realised you said DN is in YEAR 4 or 5. I read it as he IS 4 or 5.

Well for that age yes, his behaviour is rather rude. But what I said before still stands - it's not his fault as he hasn't been helped to learn what sociable behaviour consists of. Still wouldn't kick up a fuss unless he is actually hurting anyone or damaging stuff in the house.

WindwardCircle · 05/06/2017 13:55

He wouldn't be 11.

Y4 8/9

Y5 9/10

Mumoftu · 05/06/2017 13:58

Sorry I got that wrong if he's yer 4-5 he'd be 8-10. The op did say ABOUT year 4 or 5 though. So junior age is probably the best estimate.

Squishedstrawberry4 · 05/06/2017 13:58

My kids are like yours. Best not take his behaviour personally, he clearly hasn't had boundaries and is a direct result of his parenting. It wouldn't stop me seeing the family and I would seek to be gently supportive

Squishedstrawberry4 · 05/06/2017 13:58

Yes AGE 8-10

Mumoftu · 05/06/2017 14:00

I guess it's just me who thinks it's unusual not to know how old your nephew is - especially if you're criticising them about their manners....

Run4Fun · 05/06/2017 14:01

They live three hours away.
You rarely see them.
You clearly have little/no interest in having a relationship with your Db or his family.

TBH You sound like you resent the difference in lifestyle/earnings and DB's parenting is the only stick you can find to poke him with.
Visits won't happen too often and not for longer than an afternoon especially as your DN gets older so in name of harmony, get over it, stop being so sour/judgemental and make the effort.

DailyMailReadersAreThick · 05/06/2017 14:02

Mumoftu

I only have a rough idea of how old any of the children in my extended family are...

bigmack · 05/06/2017 14:03

op if you hardly see this family then how do you know so much about your nephew's mealtime behaviour?

PuppyMonkey · 05/06/2017 14:04

God I could barely even look at my aunties and uncles when I was little, I was so shy. And if they talked to me, yikes.

I was also a fantastically fussy eater now I think about it.

They probably hated me too. Shock

I grew up okay. Ish. Grin

Mumoftu · 05/06/2017 14:04

And I agree with other posters who say that you often put a rose tinted spin on your own kids behaviour.
There are a few friends that I visit where I make sure I have a book in my bag as their kids are 'spirited' rough and unpleasant at times and I often have to advise my youngest to sit with me for a while and read to keep him out of it. If there are nice kids to play with children will usually go for that option over a book ime.

YouWouldntLetItLie · 05/06/2017 14:04

OP, be honest, this isn't really about your badly behaved nephew, is it? It's to do with your brother, and the fact that you wildly disapprove of his parenting style. Little digs about him seeking 'better childcare to sort out his behaviour', and having a high-pressure job, and being 'conditioned' into popping into toy shops to lavish his money on Little Lord Fauntleroy.

Is there going to be a humungous drip feed now about how your brother has always been the golden child in the family, and your DB and SIL forced you to attend their destination wedding in Maui and made you send their dogs birthday cards until their DS was born?

Underthemoonlight · 05/06/2017 14:05

He might simply be an introvert child, don't forget he doesn't particularly know you very and sees you sporadically so he may not feel comfortable in showing affection. My dniece isn't very forth coming towards us again she lives far away only child and we see her sporadically. I think your assessment of your own DC is very cringey and totally unnecessary.