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AIBU to dislike my nephew's behaviour so much that I don't want him in our house?

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SewingMum46 · 05/06/2017 12:47

I have one brother who lives about three hours drive away and consequently we don't see much of him, his wife or their son (my only nephew). He has a high-pressure and highly paid job in comparison to my husband and I. We have three children, the youngest of whom is a little older than my nephew. Not being particularly well off, we have always tried to do the best we could for our children and encouraged them to work hard and be nice to people. They have all done well at school (eldest is now at a very good university) and although I know everyone who posts this kind of thread says their own children are perfect and well-mannered, they really are mature, polite and well-behaved. They are also quirky, argumentative, clever and funny. We don't have much disposable income and they have often had very simple gifts for birthdays and Christmas - and they've never either asked for much or sulked when they got something that didn't cost very much. They have always been taught to eat and appreciate what is put in front of them at mealtimes and to be polite - basic table manners, being sociable, staying at the table until everyone has finished eating etc.

In contrast, my nephew, who is in about year 4 or 5 at school, has been indulged since he was a baby. Toys at the table at every meal, and released into the wild to run around in restaurants since he was a toddler. He won't eat what is put in front of him and his parents will leave the table as a meal is served to find his favourite toy - meaning we all sit waiting out of politeness while the charade goes on and our food goes cold. Anything he doesn't like gets picked off his plate whilst he pulls a face and puts it on the placemat next to his plate. He barely speaks to us and will turn up his nose at the gifts we have given him for Christmas and birthdays - hardly surprising as his parents have been conditioned not to pass a toyshop without buying him something, and he's frequently taken out to eat whilst for us eating out is a special treat for a big achievement. Much of his diet seems to consist of sweet stuff or junk food surrounded by pools of ketchup, and he just won't eat vegetables.

When he was very young I was told that his parents didn't intend to discipline him "in case it dents his confidence". On their last visit they literally popped in on their way elsewhere and only stayed for about 20 minutes. My nephew, despite being asked more than once, refused to put down the book he was carrying and did not make any effort at all to engage with us. He was asked to say goodbye to us but walked straight past me reading his book and shaking his head. He consented to go back and hug my youngest child but ignored me, my husband and his other cousin. His parents just made disappointed noises but didn't actually tell him off. I was very hurt and felt completely belittled by his behaviour - but more by his parents not telling him it was unacceptable, taking the book off him and telling him to be polite to his family.

I've tried explaining to my brother how upset I am at the way he behaves - he's just plain rude and there is never any comeback from his parents, in fact they often laugh at his behaviour. I'm told that they are "aware of a problem" and "actively trying to find better childcare to sort out his behaviour" - but surely it's not just me that thinks they need to sort it out themselves as his parents and actually act when he behaves badly instead of laughing it off? I have been taking this for almost a decade now - would it be unreasonable of me to say I just don't want to see them until they all act a little more politely towards us?

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WizardOfToss · 05/06/2017 14:05

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Redredredrose · 05/06/2017 14:05

Ooooh, this is an example of one of those irregular conjugations, isn't it?!

My children are quirky and argumentative
Your child is rude and spoiled
His child is a complete sociopath

Mumoftu · 05/06/2017 14:06

Guess I must be the weird one as I know all my nieces and nephews ages and birthdays and send them cards and gifts.

rightwhine · 05/06/2017 14:07

Don't blame the child - blame the parents, and don't take it personally.

YABU to get so upset about it but YANBU to think they are muppets.

user1495451339 · 05/06/2017 14:08

It doesn't sound like you see him or know him that well. Some children just don't warm to new situations/ people or maybe he senses your negative vibe. I think you are being a bit mean to be honest as he is only a child and it is not like he was tearing down the house just reading a book. Yes, it was rude but that is really for the parents to tell him. It really isn't for you to take offence. He is an only child too so maybe not as used to mixing with big groups of people.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 05/06/2017 14:09

I certainly wouldn't wait and let everybody else's food go cold 'out of politeness' while the little so and so mucks about! Just get on without him.
And I'd spend the absolute minimum on presents if he doesn't appreciate anything.

I don't think there's a lot you can do about parents who think it 'cruel' to discipline their child, and who don't expect good behaviour. (Speaking from experience here). You just have to grit your teeth, but at the same time pander to them as little as possible - and ignore as much as possible - if bad behaviour happens in your own house. At the same time there are certain things - dirty sticky fingers all over chairs and sofa is just one - which I wouldn't tolerate no matter what the parents might think. 'I'm sorry, but you don't do that in my house.'

snowgirl1 · 05/06/2017 14:09

YABU - he's 8 - 10 and you want to ban him from your house? You feel 'belittled' by him? I think you're over-reacting.

Mummyoflittledragon · 05/06/2017 14:10

Yr 4 is 8/9 yr 5 is 9/10. Not 11!!

My dd is yr4. I would love her to read a book tbh. Yes, op, I get where you are coming from. He sounds overindulged and entitled. His parents can't be bothered to parent him.

Please be kind. He is a child, from the sounds of it is not being brought up with the best parenting. He will undoubtedly suffer and already be suffering from this.

I can see my nephew is going to be similar. He's 6. He has intimate knowledge of all the play areas attached to local pubs. He is being brought up to believe he doesn't need to share, take turns and he can do what he wants. On the infrequent times we meet up, his parents have a habit of dumping him off on me, a chronically ill woman or my mother, who until recently was a carer to her heavily disabled husband (my stepdad) in favour of them going down the pub. They even did it the day of my stepdads funeral earlier in the year.

Ceto · 05/06/2017 14:11

He barely speaks to us and will turn up his nose at the gifts we have given him for Christmas and birthdays

I wouldn't bother if I were you. Tell your brother it's obviously a total waste of time and money giving him anything so you're not going to in future.

Mumoftu · 05/06/2017 14:11

Yes that's already been corrected by a pp and myself Mummy

Mumoftu · 05/06/2017 14:12

Although since the op reckons he's in ABOUT year 4 or 5 it's entirely possible he's in year 6 and 11yo.

SewingMum46 · 05/06/2017 14:14

Oh, I'll risk being accused of a "massive drip feed" then.

He's 9 - and yes we do send cards and presents but often don't get thanked. Our local primary school has mixed year groups, so I'm not sure (as he's obviously not at the same school) which year group he's in.

He hasn't hit me, but he has hit my elderly parents.

Hasn't broken my stuff, but has thrown my children's stuff down the stairs in my house.

We don't eat out much because we actually can't afford to. I totally would do it more often if we could - wouldn't anyone?

The point about income - his parents can afford to give him stuff that we can't afford to give our children. So he'll be given something as an off-the-cuff type present that we'd probably only be able to give as a 'special' present - ie £150 worth of Lego just because they've been to the Lego store, whereas for us it would be a birthday present that grandparents, great aunt etc would have clubbed together with us to buy. So our £25 voucher for his birthday probably isn't that exciting, but there's not a lot else we can give him that he doesn't already have.

And I wasn't telling him to hug me - his mother was. I just smiled at her and said "It's OK" whilst mentally saying "Whatever".

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arbrighton · 05/06/2017 14:15

What strikes me is you don't actually even know what year group the child is in at school.

And are totally judging and feeling free to offer your opinions to your brother.

And an inverse snob when it comes to it

And if you can't just cope with it for 20 minutes once in a while, whilst holding your tongue, I think it might be you that is rude

AnneElliott · 05/06/2017 14:15

He doesn't sound so bad OP. My DN used to spit out his half chewed food on my coffee table! MIL used to look on indulgently.

Just don't go away with them as it will really annoy you. Luckily my DN has grown up to be a really nice young man - there's hope for yours yet.

CheeseCrackersAndWine · 05/06/2017 14:17

If only all children were as perfect as yours and all parents were as great at raising children as you are.

You sound smug and superior. You clearly don't like your DB, his wife or his child.

You want to ban a 10 year old from your house for not eating vegetables, owning too many toys and reading! I thought you were going to say he destroyed your house or kicked your cat or something terrible. While yes, some more manners might not go amiss, he hardly sounds like he needs to be banned from your house. Although by the sounds of it, he might be thankful if you do!

ForalltheSaints · 05/06/2017 14:17

Your house your rules is reasonable, but don't cut off all ties with your brother.

ScarletForYa · 05/06/2017 14:18

we all sit waiting out of politeness while the charade goes on and our food goes cold

Well, that's just silly. Eat your food and stop standing on ceremony for no reason.

As for I was very hurt and felt completely belittled by his behaviour he's a kid, a rude one yes but you can't let kids make you feel. 'belittled'.

You've made your feelings known, there's nothing else you can do. But you need to toughen up a little I think.

haveacupoftea · 05/06/2017 14:18

He's a child FFS and your nephew! My nephews can be silly and naughty like all children but I love them to death. I can't imagine not liking a child especially one I'm related toConfused

Mumoftu · 05/06/2017 14:19

Our local primary school has mixed year groups, so I'm not sure (as he's obviously not at the same school) which year group he's in

You could always, you know, show some interest in the child and ask him about school?

And yes that was a massive drip feed. If he beats your parents (rather than a one off lash out when he was 18 months old or something) or habitually throws your kids toys around (rather than dropping them occasionally) then I think that probably would have made the op ahead of him being a fussy eater and reading too much.

RubyWinterstorm · 05/06/2017 14:19

I don't get the sitting like martyrs letting your food get cold

just tuck in, surely?

just relax a bit about it all, yes it is annoying, but just laugh at it.

sitting around with cats bums mouths whilst you wait, spoiling all your meals is just silly silly silly

YoloSwaggins · 05/06/2017 14:20

I can't imagine not liking a child especially one I'm related to Confused

Ha, have you met my brother....

Being related to someone does not mean you have to like them!

I don't tend to like other people's kids, and a lot of mums don't. OP's nephew sounds like a handful.

Time4adrink · 05/06/2017 14:20

So your nephew sounds really shy and is maybe an introvert which would explain why he doesn't talk much, can't gush over gifts and prefers to read. It sounds completely normal for a child of that age to be picky about food. Yes, his parents should encourage him to behave more politely as your guest. And perhaps he does need better parenting but that's not his fault. Not sure why you feel the need to compare him with your children.
You sound awful, judgmental and hard to please. It seems you are looking for a reason to get one over on your brother. Maybe examine your relationship with him a bit more. Have you always been so competitive and jealous of him?

upperlimit · 05/06/2017 14:20

It seems like you are being very sensitive. Are you really going to throw a grenade into your family and go no contact with a 10yo to humour your fragile ego?

YouWouldntLetItLie · 05/06/2017 14:20

I honestly don't get why you would mention a child leaving bits of food on his placemat as evidence of his ban-worthy behaviour in an opening post and omit the fact that he's hit his grandparents. Confused

BattleaxeGalactica · 05/06/2017 14:21

I have the perfect song for your nephie, OP Grin

Really though sounds like he's picked up on your dislike and it's his way of fighting back. Do you make much effort with people who sit making cat's arsed faces at you?

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