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Labour's leaked manifesto

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LovelyBath77 · 11/05/2017 10:11

actually looks pretty good?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39877439

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NoLotteryWinYet · 12/05/2017 12:42

Tuition fees are a heart vs head issue - people feel in their gut that making uni free lifts people out of poverty but early intervention is needed to widen access.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-30103761

Who benefits most? Highest earning graduates. Rewarding the already doing well

www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9217

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/05/2017 12:43

Not everyone is born with the capacity or opportunity to achieve at the highest levels

Of course they're not - which is exactly why I agree that all types of work should be respected, not just that which appears most "successful" on the face of it. This is also why I favour more vocational education and apprenticeships instead of sticking many into Uni who just aren't cut out for it

The trouble sometimes seems to be that those who mention social justice often want, not equality of opportunity, but equality of outcome ... and that's never going to happen

NoLotteryWinYet · 12/05/2017 12:44

Yes exactly tomorrow whereas Scotland has free tuition and a widening attainment gap.

bumbleymummy · 12/05/2017 12:45

I agree Puzzled.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 12/05/2017 12:49

The land of free tuition fees:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39856284

kesstrel · 12/05/2017 12:49

Whoever said we are the fifth most wealthy country in the world needs to think again. That figure is before you account for size of population (i.e. the number of people who need services provided out of that wealth).

Once you do that, we are actually only 19th, (although that's not at all bad!) That 'fifth most wealthy' figure was misused during the Brexit campaign as well....

Natsku · 12/05/2017 12:59

Sounds good to me. Was going to vote Labour anyway to try and get the Tories out (tactical voting) but now feel even better about it.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 12/05/2017 13:36

Puzzledandpissedoff thank you Blush

And likewise to your posts

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