To leave the Labour Party?

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I'm one of the 40k I voted against corbyn desperate to salvage a party that might at least be decent opposition but he's making sure there is no effective opposition so I'm in arrears on my membership. I no longer feel I can identify with the party or its views.

I want Jess Phillips as leader, she's amazing!

I have not voted Labour since 2005. The party left me so to speak. Watching the French Presidential debate the other night made me imagine a similar one in the UK between party leaders and how embarrassing Jeremy Corbyn would be, even compared with Jean-Luc Melachon.

I'm not a member but a long term labour voter. I cannot ever see myself voting for Corbyn.

I feel the party is unelectable in its present state and if nothing changes I see generations of Tory governments ahead

I left. Combination of Europe, Tom Watson's misogyny over May - why he can't just attack her on policy is beyond me - and awful voting decisions in the Welsh assembly.

I like Corbyns ideas but agree he is unlikely to get elected. Good principles, good at lobbying and holding to accound but not prime ministerial.
I do feel though that there was so much hate directed at him from the right of thr party that they deliberately went out their way to discredit him at every opportunity.

What I'd like is someone who:

• wants to invest in public service ajd stop privatising them through the back door
• wants to build global relations not just be US puppet
• wants more responsibility on thr finance sector who caused this economic downfall
• will create affordable homes and more social housing (not help to buy which is just letting people borrow more money to line the pockets of big business)
• will hold the government to account over brexit
• will have a sensible discussion about industry
• will clamp down on tax loopholes

YANBU at all. JC really is weak & his fucking stupid hat sets my teeth on edge, does he think he is a student?

Yes but take heart as us oldies have seen it all before with Foot bless him who was totally unelectable but a good and decent man unlike Corbyn who is thin skinned, weak incompetent and arrogant. A terrible combination.

Labour periodically tears itself apart until they find a leader who has general appeal and deny it all you like Blaire had that in spades.

I think labour will sink further until Corbyn is pushed out and that won't be until an absolute decimation at the next ejection.

Then someone new will fight through to rebuild. None of the names touted above are up to that job.

It's particularly dreadful now though when we really really need a strong opposition. Tragic.

cool trade you that pathetic hat for Foots donkey jacket at the renemberence service.

I like Andy Burnham, , did a hell of a lot with Hillsborough. articulate, clever, speaks well'

Burnham honestly does not give a shit about anything or anyone but Burnham.

Michael Foot did not wear a donkey jacket, it was a heavy winter coat! You must have been looking at the daily fail that day!

cool I don't read the daily mail and actually remember the service. It wasn't a heavy winter coat.

I am a life long member of the Labour Party and I find your post rude and patronising.

I left months ago. The experience of the way labour have let me down has put me off ever joining a political party again.

Foot was as you say a decent man' I sometimes wonder how different things would have been if John Smith had lived, he was a brilliant man

32 years a member - a left winger to boot - but I feel your pain.

I remember it as well and don't read the daily fail either, Labour supporter all my life as well,my apologies to you, certainly don't mean to annoy you. Look to Scotland , Ms Dugdale is the one Labour need

Ah, the mythical donkey jacket that was in fact an Aquascutum coat.

Anyway, I left when they whipped to vote to trigger article 50. I'd been persuading myself for ages to stay to try and vote Corbyn out, but when I reached the point when I really didn't think I'd be able to bring myself to vote for the current shower of shite, let alone try and tell anyone else that they should, I decided I had to leave.

Join the Lib Dems

I left my lifelong support of labour to join the LibDems and am underwhelmed. Just meh.
Don't like Tim Farron.

Read JC piece on FB about MM and it just angered me tbh, no acknowledgement of the victims and could have been a lot more balanced for something public by the opposition leader.

No idea where to go politically now.

Labour members have been switching to the Lib Dems in droves. I was one of them.

Argh! Corbyn, he makes me want to weep. As do all my previously intelligent, thoughtful leftie friends who seem to support him unquestionably! The complete irony being that they're all passionately pro-remain (as am I) and it's so clear that the reason Corbyn isn't opposing the story Brexit agenda is because it is his agenda too! I haven't left the party because I don't see where else I would go, but I do despair.

*Tory story

DH and I left last year and won't return until Corbyn has gone.

The Lib Dems similarly frustrate me. There is a marvellous Labour shaped hole they could have stepped into and instead are nervously tiptoeing around it.

Lib dems saying theyou would go into coalition with the Tories again puts me and many others off.