Betrayed by TM.

[Itisnoteasybeingdifferent]

We are being led down the path by TM who is now propsing to simply adopt every EU regulation, statute and Law wholesale.

We are beset by EU allergies directives, EU waste directives, EU working time directives, EU this EU that EeU fisheres directives...... We were told we can be a sovereign country if we leave the EU.

We were not told we will have to adopt every EU law wholesale.. We don't have to adopt them. We can and should create laws that meet our needs not paper pushers in Brussels.

[Iwantausername]

Olympia I think we were a great country.
I think we are more than capable on the whole, of making our own laws.
We do however have Theresa the raging bull running head first straight into brexit and taking us all with her.
We have a government that takes advantage, pushes boundaries and makes peoples lives hell for things as simple as a spare room.
They've made a mess of the NHS to the point where its a ''humanitarian crisis'' in the eyes of the red cross.
They are making a mess of education. I'd bet any money that they will make a total mess of this too and fail to protect us.

[Peregrina]

The referendum was held and Brexit was what was decided on, so she doesn't really have the option of ignoring that, and since she is now the PM she has to get on with it I suppose. And she can't be seen to be weak, so she has to throw herself into it all as if she thinks it is the best idea in the world.

Did your ballot paper have a question on it about what sort of Brexit we were going for? Mine didn't, and I don't think Theresa May's did either. The Tory Party Mandate specified a commitment to the Single Market. We have just seen them renounce a Budget Measure because it broke the spirit of the Tory Manifesto. But Brexit is different.

[augustbody]

'We were told.......We were told.........'

Bullshit - we were told nothing. You just fell for a load of crappy rhetoric about taking back control or similar shite. Well you got what you wanted, this is it.

[Itisnoteasybeingdifferent]

#987
EU allergies directive keeps my son from dying.....,,,,,

No it doesn't. You are at liberty to ask sbout ingredients witout the interference of EU jobsworths. Indeed my diabetic DP lived eith looking at the sugar content for years before the EU dtuck their nose into it.

[Lweji]

And right now that is a Tory government and will be for at least another eight years

What? Have you rigged the next election?

[Lweji]

There you are, OP.

What's wrong with showing the sugar content on packages?

[PoundlandUK]

As I've said before, in the week prior to the referendum an ipsos more poll revealed that 47% actually believed the 350 million to NHS bus lie.

Sadly this suggest that almost half the electorate had not bothered to research even the basic facts for a vote which will affect their children's and grandchildrens lives most profoundly. It's shameful and incredible.

Betrayal? Yes indeed.

[DJBaggySmalls]

What Lweji said.
I have no sympathy for people who want to take this great country of ours and turn it into a shit hole.
There are people who would flatten St Pauls if they thought they could make a quick buck selling the rubble and making space to build a car park.

[notaflyingmonkey]

So, Brexit not working out as planned... Economic impact not yet looked into.. It would be funny if it wasn't my country, and my children's future that has been fucked over by people voting for their rose-tinted vision of little England.

[Lweji]

You are at liberty to ask sbout ingredients witout the interference of EU jobsworths.

Are you saying that every customer is at a liberty to ring every biscuit manufacturer when shopping at a supermarket to decide which brand to buy?

[PoundlandUK]

*ipsos mori

[Megatherium]

No it doesn't. You are at liberty to ask sbout ingredients witout the interference of EU jobsworths

Think about that. You are going round a large supermarket, your child has an allergy to something like sesame which tends to get sneaked into product unexpectedly as seeds decorating the outside, or in the form of sesame oil. Do you queue up at the inquiries desk and ask them to check every item in your trolley? How easy do you think it will be for them to find out what does and does not have sesame in unless you have - wait for it - a rule that manufacturers must supply the information? And that process has to be repeated for everyone shopping for anyone with allergies?

Is that really preferable to having a rule that allergy information be printed on the products in question?

[twofingerstoEverything]

RachelRagged where is the abuse? All I'm seeing is facts. Reow
If you follow any of the EU threads, this is a common tactic by leavers. 'I'm not going to engage in any debate because you're all a bunch of meanies who keep spoiling my fun by spouting facts.'

[LouKout]

Its so much better with decent allergy labelling.

I cant believe anyone would object to that

[MsHooliesCardigan]

I have made a concerted effort recently to try to listen to Leave voters and then someone like the OP posts and I just think FFS.
Tony Blair was on the Andrew Marr show this morning. I know he's a divisive figure but you can't call him stupid or ill informed. He has spent some time talking to pesky experts and he said that even he, with 10 years experience as PM, had absolutely no idea of the complexity of leaving the EU.
How any Leavers can be happy with the situation after David Davis's shambolic performance this week when he basically said 'I don't know' to half the questions is beyond me.

[EssentialHummus]

I assume you voted for Brexit? There wasn't a plan, so she can't be betraying you. As long as Brexit goes ahead. This is what happens when you campaign on the basis of soundbite rather than a clear plan. Incidentally do you feel betrayed, for example, about the lies told by Johnson and Gove regarding the 350 million a week that we could divert to the NHS?

Exactly this. Well put, nap.

[Lweji]

I'm trying to listen.

I've asked what laws are bad and why and no answer yet.

[ALemonyPea]

Wait, a politician isn't doing what they said they would do inititially?! Has anyone alerted the press this has never happened before!

[Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g]

From The Guardian (but widely reported elsewhere too):

The number of EU nationals registering as nurses in England has dropped by 92% since the Brexit referendum in June, and a record number are quitting the NHS, it can be revealed.

Nursing degree applications slump after NHS bursaries abolished

The shock figures have prompted warnings that Theresa May’s failure to offer assurances to foreigners living in the UK is exacerbating a staffing crisis in the health service.

Only 96 nurses joined the NHS from other European nations in December 2016 – a drop from 1,304 in July, the month after the referendum....

All going wonderfully well.

Looking just at the higher education sector, universities are seeing a drop in applications from EU students, EU nationals working as academics are leaving because they can't be sure they'll be allowed to stay and EU grant funding for research is already drying up. Since our immigration policies have already put off many potential students from the Indian subcontinent who are going instead to the USA, Australia or Canada, we face a huge fall in revenue from international students and longer term a big drop in the valuable ties created between nations because when those students go back to their own countries they retain fond feelings for the UK.

Great work. And that's before we even start looking at what will happen to tourism and agriculture, all relying heavily on EU nationals to do the hard work and unsocial hours (and do it really well) that many native Britons have turned their noses up at in recent years.

[notangelinajolie]

OP you are missing the point. We keep the laws and tweek them later. The remainers and brexiteers can argue and vote for every single one of them to their hearts content.

The point being that it will be our democratically voted parliament who decides and not the EU.

[Olympiathequeen]

Sadly there were lies and distortions on both sides and the referendum was very much a blank sheet of paper.

There is such hostility to the Tory government a lot of which I can understand, but the opposition is a joke. It's a pity many people don't have confidence in their government despite them being voted in by the majority. I feel the same but am a bit despairing of all governments at the moment. So many people in other countries too with little faith in their government. Feel like living in a cave sometimes.

[Lweji]

And that's before we even start looking at what will happen to tourism and agriculture, all relying heavily on EU nationals to do the hard work and unsocial hours (and do it really well) that many native Britons have turned their noses up at in recent years.

You're wrong. UK nationals are queuing up to get those jobs but pesky forriners keep stealing them.

[Lweji]

The point being that it will be our democratically voted parliament who decides and not the EU.

It was still Parliament who decided, BTW. In or out of the EU.

[Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g]

Silly old me! Of course they will. Life will be so much better without all those pesky forriners who have simultaneously stolen all our jobs, lived on benefits and forced up performance in our schools, as mentioned by Michael Gove this week taken all our school places.

[Theworldisfullofidiots]

If you want to trade with the EU (and to ve honest we will be stupid if we don't) we will need to comply with EU law. If we don't do this it will be even more complicated. If we fall back on WTO we will still need to comply. And by the way we are no automatically a member of the WTO (our membership comes through the EU so this is much more complicated than it appears) and in the future we are going to have to comply with the WTO and EU. By the way the Chinese think we are stupid.....see the parliamentary committee.......