Betrayed by TM.

[Itisnoteasybeingdifferent]

We are being led down the path by TM who is now propsing to simply adopt every EU regulation, statute and Law wholesale.

We are beset by EU allergies directives, EU waste directives, EU working time directives, EU this EU that EeU fisheres directives...... We were told we can be a sovereign country if we leave the EU.

We were not told we will have to adopt every EU law wholesale.. We don't have to adopt them. We can and should create laws that meet our needs not paper pushers in Brussels.

[LouKout]

I'm no way a TM fan, but trump seems right up your street

[MrsT2007]

And even better, we've now got to suck up to the Orange sh*tgibbon in the whitehouse, as we have no other choice.

In an era where we should be looking to our European neighbours to stand against him and his 'interesting' ideas, we've left ourselves out in the cold. Worryingly the UK will probably end up watching at the court of DT as he morphs into a model version of Nero, playing his fiddle whilst Rome burns....

If we think Britain is somehow going to turn into its 1930's version again then we're wrong. There's no manufacturing powerhouse. There's no empire. We have zero leverage these days, and not a cat in hells chance of going back the 'glory days' Farage et all seem to inhabit

[harderandharder2breathe]

Aw bless you thought there was a plan?

[GinIsIn]

YEAH! Fuck you EU, with your fair maternity pay, wage equality and protecting our environment......

[Lweji]

We have zero leverage these days, and not a cat in hells chance of going back the 'glory days' Farage et all seem to inhabit

What's he doing these days anyway? Working hard on getting the best possible exit from the EU? Leading his party as a credible alternative to the Conservatives?

[Smashedinductionhob]

Hi OP sorry you feel betrayed, it is a horrible feeling.

I had a news free day yesterday -has something just happened?

[carabos]

DS2 is at uni studying Law. They are currently doing a module on Brexit and the EU. He says he is the only student in his class of about 20 people who knows a) what a referendum actually is and b) that we didn't wake up the morning after the referendum and find ourselves outside the EU. All the other students believe that the referendum ended our membership of the EU there and then, and it was as simple as that. I'm not surprised and I imagine there are millions of people who think the same.

We live in a region with a high proportion of people from South East Asian origin- specifically Pakistan. I hear many people talking about how Brexit means that "they" (third generation, British born) will have to "go back" . Leaving much of the crap around that aside, how do they think leaving the European union could affect people whose families came from Asia? How does that work then? And they bang on about how Brexit will bring all this money back into the NHS without realising that more than 1:10 people working in the NHS comes from the EU, so who will deliver care when "they" all "go back" .

[ifyoulikepinacolada]

Oh sweetheart never mind. Next time you'll know to do your research.

[Smashedinductionhob]

[CardinalSin]

We've all been betrayed by TM, OP, just not in the way you are suggesting...

[BalloonSlayer]

God so sorry that you have been EU allergies directives you poor poor thing.

My grovelling apologies that legislation that made my severely allergic child less lightly to have a fatal reaction to unlabelled allergens has caused you some slight inconvenience, Ma'am.

[tigerdriverII]

Poor old baffled old OP

LostSight, that clip really had me crying with laughter. Brilliant.

[ClashCityRocker]

Well yes, realistically wasn't this always going to be the case?

Before you have a go at 'creating new laws' you have to get rid of the old laws.

And a hell of a lot of eu directives are written in to uk law. The VATA 1994 for one. In fact eu law and uk law are so intertwined, there is very little choice in the matter. You can't just say 'eu law doesn't count anymore' because it is also uk law.

What precisely did you think would happen? The day after formally leaving the eu, vat disappears? One of the most efficient and easily collected taxes which makes up around a quarter of the governments revenue just goes up in smoke?

Not to mention the countless other laws and regulations which offer protection to citizens of the U.K.

[Lweji]

Not quite the hand holding thread the OP might be hoping for.

[HashiAsLarry]

This isn't even new news. Or does it just feel new?

[Smashedinductionhob]

Apologies, google isn't helping.

Has an announcement been made?

[carabos]

smashed it's a foundation degree in Leeds.

[Chippednailvarnishing]

Thanks for making me laugh OP.

[Smashedinductionhob]

Thank you.

So these are 18/19 year old?

It is interesting.

[Annesmyth123]

This was always how it was going to be. How can you have missed this?

[Fanciedachange17]

Now we have fairer laws on maternity pay. working hours, minimum wages ect there is no way any British Government would dare to repeal them as the reaction would lose them power so it matters not where these laws originated. Yes, I agree, not all the laws are great, I'm thinking of the huge food waste and how some of our farmers have been impacted. Did any of you see the Hugh F-W programme about the parsnip farmer?
I think the EU will probably collapse in a few years especially if France pulls out and everything will be up for renegotiation. I'd be more concerned by the Chinese and Japanese policy of buying up all our industries and businesses so they hold all the power than worrying too much about the EU and the nitty gritty of small established laws.

[NonnoMum]

No, OP doesn't seem to have come back, does s/he?

Or it could be a lazy journalist looking for comments on the mood of the country regarding the fuck up that is Brexit...?

[Reow]

OP can you please specify which laws you have an issue with?

[userformallyknownasuser1475360]

I love the typical Brexiteer rant of "why is Europe doing this to me" rather than asking why I s the EU doing things for the good of both the British and Europeannpeople, they also seem to forget that their are British people working for the Eu too.

I think the call for the Scottish referendum as well as a possible border poll in Notthern Ireland is very telling. I think that in a number of years we could be looking at England and Wales out of Europe, as there will be no UK.

The thing I despair most at is the state of education given carabos statement that undergraduates studying law do. Or know what a referendum is, especially given they may have just voted in one

[rookiemere]

Aw what a wee shame for you OP.

If it's any help, as one of those dreadful remoaners I'm not awfully happy either. As the brexit vote didn't stipulate hard or soft brexit or anything about open markets, TM could have gone with a softer option which would have been less likely to result in demands for another blinkin referendum in Scotland where I live, but am not Scottish. This will likely decimate our economy and result in the finance companies leaving their headquarters and losing jobs. Mind you it could be worse - my Northern Irish relatives aren't looking forward to a return of the "good old days" with all out fighting going on.

It should cheer me up a bit that you aren't getting what you want either, but then it baffles me why you thought you'd get it in the first place and what you actually think it means.