Betrayed by TM.

[Itisnoteasybeingdifferent]

We are being led down the path by TM who is now propsing to simply adopt every EU regulation, statute and Law wholesale.

We are beset by EU allergies directives, EU waste directives, EU working time directives, EU this EU that EeU fisheres directives...... We were told we can be a sovereign country if we leave the EU.

We were not told we will have to adopt every EU law wholesale.. We don't have to adopt them. We can and should create laws that meet our needs not paper pushers in Brussels.

[RochelleGoyle]

at MrsT2007 Orange sh*tgibbon!

OP, you still haven't told us which EU directives and regulations are so bad in your opinion. Please explain.

[EnthusiasmIsDisturbed]

I am pleased we are

At one point the fear was that so many EU regulations were going to be scrapped

[honeysucklejasmine]

I can't decide if this is funny or depressing.

[Smashedinductionhob]

Please tell me when this happened.

Pretty please!

[ThoraGruntwhistle]

I can only think that this would bother you if you're under the impression that you're being oppressed by EU laws trying to ban curved bananas, rename Christmas as Winterval and make it illegal for tape measures to show feet and inches. I'd be interested to know which EU laws you want to get rid of.

[Smashedinductionhob]

Someone....

[thatcatpigeon]

Oh bless you, I did wonder who actually believed the bus and here you are. Brave of you to admit it though. How about asking TM where the fuck that pesky 350 million for the NHS is, and whilst you're at it ask why she is destroying our children's education whilst spending billions on weapons we will never use. Did you think we were just going to pack our bags and march right back to the 1950's chucking all those 'forriners back where they came from' on the way out!?

Whether companies can't go back to exploiting low paid staff with unpaid long hours is the least of our worries (but tbh I find it hard to feel sorry for those poor bosses who are just going to have to be fair about the working hours if we keep the EU directives..). ROFL.

[carabos]

smashed mixed age group - tis the nature of foundation degrees that people are coming from non-traditional entry routes. DS2 is 24, there are a couple of people in their 30s, most are late teens /early 20s.

[Smashedinductionhob]

[DameDeDoubtance]

EU allergies directive keeps my son from dying.....,,,,,

My daughter too.

[squishysquirmy]

Wow, it's almost like leaving the EU isn't going to be simple and quick, isn't it?
Who would have thought it?
If you're feeling betrayed now - by the fact that the UK government won't instantly be repealing all sorts of protections from it's citizens, how betrayed will you feel when we don't get everything we demand in Brexit negotiations? When it turns out that we cannot have our cake and eat it? (Or worse, the shitstorm if we drop out of the EU without anagreement in place). I suppose that will be the fault of the meanies in the EU and liberal subversives?

[StrangeLookingParasite]

Ha ha, sucker. You thought you were getting your country back. It was never your country in the first place. It belongs to the rich. Some of the more racist ones decided to hold a referendum, in which you kindly did their bidding. Now the less racist tendency have prevailed because the currency's unstable. A joke can go too far, especially when it endangers the money.

Yep, this.

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

I have to say I think the op is a plant.

[LakieLady]

DS2 is at uni studying Law. They are currently doing a module on Brexit and the EU. He says he is the only student in his class of about 20 people who knows a) what a referendum actually is and b) that we didn't wake up the morning after the referendum and find ourselves outside the EU. All the other students believe that the referendum ended our membership of the EU there and then, and it was as simple as that. I'm not surprised and I imagine there are millions of people who think the same.

How the fuck did they even get a place at uni if they're so goddamn ignorant?

I'd heard that standards were lower these days, but had no idea they'd got that bad.

[AgentProvocateur]

I never cease to be amazed at how ignorant some people are. What did you expect, OP? FFS.

[Smashedinductionhob]

Which uni?
LT or UL?

[HerOtherHalf]

We are being led down the path by TM who is now propsing to simply adopt every EU regulation, statute and Law wholesale.

We've already adopted them, they are in place now. We can't just rip them up overnight, they are written into our statutes and writing them out and replacing them will take time. We may even have to adopt new ones because it can take years to draft laws and regulations and we haven't planned for alternatives to those in flight.

We are beset by EU allergies directives, EU waste directives, EU working time directives, EU this EU that EeU fisheres directives......

I'd hazard a guess you couldn't write a meaningful 1 pager on all these directives and why they are so detrimental to the UK. Feel free to prove me wrong (your own words though, no copying and pasting pls).

We were told we can be a sovereign country if we leave the EU.

What does that mean to you? Why do you think you would be any better off or have more say in the things that impact you? I doubt you really have the faintest idea, at least not one based on political reality.


We were not told we will have to adopt every EU law wholesale.. We don't have to adopt them.

As above, we've already adopted them. We would need to remove and replace them to reach your objective. You do realise that revising and/or implementing statutes and regulations takes time, don't you?

We can and should create laws that meet our needs not paper pushers in Brussels

"We" (i.e. you and me and all the other ordinary folks) are not going to create any laws. That will still be done by "paper pushers", it's just they will be predominantly in Westminster rather than Brussels. You are rather naive if you think the Westminster folks will somehow leverage their new powers and morph your life into some wonderful fantasy of milk and honey.

When you presumably voted to leave in the referendum, did it never cross your mind that you were voting for monumental change but that nobody had actually presented any shred of a plan or forecast of what that change would actually involve? Oh dear!
I'll give you my forecast, and it has not changed since the ref. We will see negligible reductions in immigration (hopefully), we will still be making a substantial financial contribution to the EU, it will take a generation to extricate ourselves from all the EU laws and regulations (some of which are actually rather good) and a similar amount of time to build new trade deals with other markets. Basically, we will have pretty much what we have now, except a seat at the executive table. When all is said and done, the hordes of whining underachievers that voted for us to jump into an abyss will still be underachievers because that is what they are.

[ilovesooty]

People as uninformed and intellectually challenged as the OP reinforce my view that there should never have been a referendum in the first place.

[woman12345]

www.electionexpenses.co.uk

Unelected May presides over a government with a dodgy majority bought with dodgy election expenses spending and advised by a dodgy adviser Timothy Donavon.
The police that she criticised so strongly are now investigating up to 20 of her MPs' election expenses.
She may call an early election to upend the police investigation and pre empt new rules on fair election expenses.

Dodgy Teresa.

[CardinalSin]

I have to say I think the op is a plant.

Either that or an idiot. Possibly both.

[carabos]

smashed I said "in Leeds" not "at Leeds".

[BakeOffBiscuits]

I expect you think there will be no more immigration too?

HAHAHAHAHHAHA.

Try to educate yourself a bit more OP, you won't feel you've been "led" anywhere then.

[carabos]

And Lakie it's a Foundation degree - accessible to people from non-traditional academic routes - it doesn't mean they are thick . So much intellectual snobbery on MN.

[Devilishpyjamas]

Oh dear god.

[Annesmyth123]

Foundation degrees are usually 2 years long full time and 3 or 4art time and are normally linked to a particular vocational degree - so you start on a foundation degree in engineering for example, which leads to routes to full degree in an engineering related subject.

They give exemptions on to a degree course depending on modules taken and marks obtained. So you might go into year two of a full degree course for example

Often, the people on them are following a less traditional route to further and higher education.

It does not mean they are thick. (Ds is hoping to do one along with working )