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My competition win was hijacked by a very strange woman (bit of a long saga)

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BoffinMum · 02/03/2017 11:22

This is in AIBU because I genuinely want to know if I was, but it's borderline personally upsetting so please don't be too robust when you respond.

So I came second in a creative writing competition in another language. I was pretty pleased about this as I had last studied it at school. There were categories for secondary aged pupils, university students, native speakers and people like me (random grown ups, basically). So about 2/3 of the people there were adult winners, i.e. not at school.

The prize was a creative writing workshop with a celebrated writer. Very exciting, although I was a bit nervous about writing in the other language as I haven't done much of that for years. I speak the language really fluently with a native accent (can't say more without outing myself), but I don't write in it very often, because I never went to school or university there, so I am a bit self-conscious about things like spelling and perfect grammar, perfect idioms, etc. Admittedly I am a bit of a perfectionist. Anyway I turned up to the workshop, and waited.

Everything in the waiting area was fine except there was a woman who turned up with three independent school sixth form kids in school uniform (no other kids were in school uniform). She was, shall we say, something of a strong personality, a bit loud, and kind of dominating proceedings. In the movie of her life, I later joked to my DH, she would be played by Miriam Gargoyles at full throttle. I am sure you all know the type. But there's no law against being like that, free country, takes all sorts, etc etc. We didn't actually have anything to do with each other before the workshop.

Eventually we were divided into small groups and all the prize winners went into the workshop room with their assigned author. This woman, with the kids in school uniform, said "We're coming with him" and followed us into the workshop and plonked herself down. I wondered if she was someone's mum. We started with a bit of who we all were and so on, in the target language. She then starting muttering behind her hand to one of the sixth form students that my language skills were poor and I could not speak properly, and sniggered. This made me feel very uncomfortable - I know I speak the language just fine, I certainly was one of the better speakers in the room, and normally I would just ignore something like this on the grounds that she didn't know what she was talking about, but she had actually touched on a nerve. From my point of view, here I was being brave and exposing myself psychologically, and she was essentially starting to be a bit of a bully in the workshop, with a weird agenda. I wouldn't have minded them joining in if they were nice, but they weren't being nice. They were playing strange and inappropriate psychological games and sucking me into something I didn't like. I did not need to be picked on by a bully at that exact moment in my life, so I decided to be vigilant and sort her out if it came to that.

She sniggered about me a bit more, so then I asked her whether she was one of the prize winners. She announced she wasn't, but that one of her pupils was, and she and her other pupils had been invited to the workshop so that was why she was there. Now I could see the organisers hadn't been expecting her, and I had received the same congratulatory email as everyone else, and this was most emphatically not the case - guests were invited to the prize ceremony in the evening but not to the workshop. In addition, no other students and teachers had turned up, which made it even more obvious to everyone that she had misunderstood the email her winning student had received, and was effectively gatecrashing the event. So I responded that this was surprising, as the prize for the competition was supposed to be this workshop, and guests were invited to the evening ceremony but obviously not the workshop, as that was meant to be the prize. She said she was entitled to be there. So I said that if she hadn't entered or won, then I couldn't see what she was doing here. I added that personally speaking, this was quite a brave thing for me to be doing, and I would be grateful therefore if it could be kept to prize winners only, as originally agreed, and not language teachers and their guests. Apart from anything else, I pointed out, the group size would be very large if extra people came in.

She then let rip. I was a horrible person, I was a nasty person, she had never met anyone like me, this was outrageous, I was appalling, etc etc. I was personally attacked in front of all the other prizewinners and the organising committee. They all stood there like rabbits paralysed in the headlights. None of them did anything. We all slightly died of embarrassment.

I got my coat, and very politely said that if this was the basis on which the workshop was happening, I did not feel it was a psychologically safe space for me personally to be doing something artistic such as creative writing, and that I was going to leave and see them all later at the ceremony. I wished them well. The woman was clearly a petty bully who had singled me out for some bizarre reason, in the way that bullies do, and the prospect of me spending all afternoon in a room with her and her pupil sidekicks (one of whom I suspected was her son, as they were physically rather similar and she spent a lot of time muttering with him in a very exclusive way, sitting very close) was to me, quite frankly, highly unappealing to say the least. The organisers said that was a shame, and I should stay, as I was one of the prizewinners, so I hung my coat back up and put my stuff down again.

She then let rip even more and got threatening. She said I would be in big trouble with her headmaster, that this had been presented as a sixth form workshop for pupils and their teachers, that they had come all this way, that I was outrageous, I was disgusting, she had never met anyone as horrible as me, etc etc etc. It went on for one or two very long minutes until she drew breath. I then said (and I am not proud of this, but it did get rid of her) "Have you finished?" She just looked at me. I then said, "There's the door" and she flounced off with her coterie, muttering into the distance, leaving the one prize winning pupil behind to take part in the workshop. (I later worked out this boy was a native speaker of the target language but attending an English school and had most likely cheated by entering the school category rather than the native speaker one, but in actual fact he had only come fourth in his category anyway - runner-up - so it was not the end of the world).

The workshop went OK, after I explained I was not a horrible person and I was actually someone who loved writing and was trying a risky challenge here. In fact, the writer hosting the workshop was absolutely lovely and everyone really enjoyed it. But the shadow of the strange woman hung over it for me.

Then we went down to the evening ceremony, which was due to start in about 20 minutes time. There the bully teacher woman was again. In fact she floated around the entire space announcing in a very loud voice to anyone standing around how badly she had been treated and what a horrible person I was, over and over and over again, to anyone who would listen, making sure I was in earshot the whole time. Luckily my DH had arrived for the ceremony, so I stood with him, completely ignored her, chatted politely to a few participants and organisers from time to time, and I reckon she didn't dare come over to me because he was there (he looks very proper and CEO-like so people tend not to have a go). She then sat on the front row with the entourage from her school flanking her. Luckily she shut up during the ceremony although I would not have been surprised if she had sprung up while I was on stage to make some sort of objection, like the mad person at the wedding in a Hollywood film. I would have left at that point if DH hadn't been there, quite frankly.

Then afterwards there was a drinks party and she carried on slagging me off around the room loudly. I just ignored her and chatted nicely to a few other people, all of whom were lovely. We left pretty soon afterwards. DH took me out for a nice supper. DH is wonderful.

I have to say though that I am still feeling quite disorientated and a teensy bit upset by the proceedings and I really didn't like being painted as an evil person. Nor do I like not feeling I handled it as well as I might have done (although I was pleased at my sophisticated and very adult anger management skills as I actually wanted to bash her on the head with my handbag quite a lot of the time, but calmed myself down and behaved in a very dignified way). Clearly, though, this woman has major problems, to behave like that in public. WIBU to object to her being in the workshop?

I wish AuldAlliance or ScottishMummy had been there as they would have dealt with this woman magnificently.

OP posts:
SuperPug · 03/03/2017 18:00

Please report this to her school- she sounds horrendous and it is worrying to hear she is change of students' welfare as a teacher. Brilliant handling of it, people like this are truly pathetic

TanteJeanne · 03/03/2017 18:05

You are the winner in every way. You won the competition. You are a creative writer. You are bilingual. You put yourself out there- out of your comfort zone. You stood up for yourself in very difficult circumstances. You have a lovely DH.
This other loon is a vile bag of shite. You come across them in life. They are the losers.

Katherine2626 · 03/03/2017 18:24

I would also complain to her school; not only was that appalling behaviour towards another human being, but what kind of example was she setting to the pupils?

bensmissus · 03/03/2017 18:35

I would definitely complain to the school and back it up with any witness letters you can get hold on xx she's a disgusting bitch

DawnSharpe · 03/03/2017 18:38

I'm totally amazed that during all that time of unpleasantness, no-one else stood up for you! What's that about??

TippyT · 03/03/2017 18:42

Big big hugs xxxyou did something amazing xxx don't let this wretched cow bag of joyless udders get to you xxx

SukiPutTheEarlGreyOn · 03/03/2017 18:45

Firstly, huge congratulations on your win. It would be a big achievement in your native language let alone in a second language. Secondly, equally huge congratulations for being assertive and also showing dignity and grace in difficult circumstances. This awful woman has let down her school and provided an appalling example to her students. Please don't let her detract from your win - and keep writing!

Aroseforemily · 03/03/2017 18:48

Well done, by the way if you watch call the midwife I'm reading your posts in the voice of Phyllis Crane.

Longdistance · 03/03/2017 18:56

As she was representing the school, ad her behaviour was appalling, I'd report her to the head.

DagenhamRoundhouse · 03/03/2017 19:01

I always did think teachers were a tad weird! It must be working with kids for years and years. (Apols. to any teachers reading.)

Herschellmum · 03/03/2017 19:01

I know the sort, I would definitely report it, but understand your reluctance. Perhaps do so anomalously, then it's up to them what they do with the information, it might be more evidence in a case against her, or she may be going though something, who knows, but I would find a way to express what she acted like in front of her student when she was representing the school.

Massive hugs. You did amazingly.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 03/03/2017 19:05

I'm impressed with your handling of the situation! Will definitely be using "Have you finished?" in future.

picklemepopcorn · 03/03/2017 19:05

I'm very impressed! I think the reason for the under reacting from all around you is many people's fear of confrontation.

NotYoda · 03/03/2017 19:07

I also know the sort

It is disorientating and upsetting when someone is so blatantly being such an absolute cow (and, I think, pretty strange to boot). It's not something most of us encounter very much and I can really see why it took you right back to teenage years

You did really well to stick it out and defend yourself.

Arose

I love that character too

NotYoda · 03/03/2017 19:09

I think her school must know very well what she is like. A short note telling them the way that her behaviour represented their school would not go amiss.

pollymere · 03/03/2017 20:25

You handled the situation in a very adult way. Sadly she behaved as if she should be in primary school still. I suspect she used her personality to take advantage of what she was clearly not entitled to. I do feel that the organizers owe you an apology for not escorting this woman off the premises when her behaviour was disruptive and abusive. I would make a formal complaint to the school governors too. You'll be able to find out from the list of winners if you don't know which school. This lady was an ambassador for that school and I'm sure they'd be very interested by what you have to say.

jocarter67 · 03/03/2017 20:26

Congratulations on your win, this lady (and I say lady very lightly) was a nasty bully and one of those people who just have to be better than anyone else in the room. She made herself look stupid and you calmly and politely stood up for yourself.

Helentad · 03/03/2017 20:30

Congratulations on your prize and if on your shoes I would be contacting the head of the school to say how well the students behaved but that the teacher on the other hand was an embarrassment to the whole school to anybody that she spoke to.

pollymere · 03/03/2017 20:31

Even posh mini schools have governors though... 😁

SorenLorensonsInvisibleFriend · 03/03/2017 20:45

I apologise for loving this thread as much as I did. It's so good when someone worthy wins a prize, and even more satisfying when a toxic bully gets their comeuppance!

Congratulations on your prize, and please accept my admiration and awe at your dignity and grace. I will definitely be channelling you if ever I have to face something like this - and memorise "have you finished?" as the perfect response!

MiniMum97 · 03/03/2017 20:58

What an awful awful thing to have happened to you. I was bullied badly at school and this would have hit all sorts of buttons with me and I would not have known how to react at all. Sounds like you reacted amazingly to a domineering and nasty person. You were fantastic and should be really proud of yourself.

I expect that everyone she was berating you too could see right through her so don't worry about that.

You were the better person. Well done!

sibys1 · 03/03/2017 21:08

I would also be complaining to the school but well done on everything OP.

MammaTJ · 03/03/2017 22:02

She said I would be in big trouble with her headmaster

That would not have scared me at 13, a pupil at the school, I am damn sure it would not scare me as an adult with no association with the school, though I it might carry some weight with her!!

She was clearly a bully but you were no victim! Well done you!

Shame on the organisers!

I would go to the head with all you have said here and to the organisers, so they can prevent future events being taken over like this!

curlilox · 04/03/2017 02:27

I would say this woman is not fit to be a teacher. What sort of example is she setting for the pupils? Let's hope they tell their parents. I would certainly complain if I heard of such outrageous behaviour from a teacher.

monstiebags · 04/03/2017 07:32

I would write to the head of her school and complain about her behaviour. She is not a good example to her students and she has shown the school in a very bad light.

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