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My competition win was hijacked by a very strange woman (bit of a long saga)

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BoffinMum · 02/03/2017 11:22

This is in AIBU because I genuinely want to know if I was, but it's borderline personally upsetting so please don't be too robust when you respond.

So I came second in a creative writing competition in another language. I was pretty pleased about this as I had last studied it at school. There were categories for secondary aged pupils, university students, native speakers and people like me (random grown ups, basically). So about 2/3 of the people there were adult winners, i.e. not at school.

The prize was a creative writing workshop with a celebrated writer. Very exciting, although I was a bit nervous about writing in the other language as I haven't done much of that for years. I speak the language really fluently with a native accent (can't say more without outing myself), but I don't write in it very often, because I never went to school or university there, so I am a bit self-conscious about things like spelling and perfect grammar, perfect idioms, etc. Admittedly I am a bit of a perfectionist. Anyway I turned up to the workshop, and waited.

Everything in the waiting area was fine except there was a woman who turned up with three independent school sixth form kids in school uniform (no other kids were in school uniform). She was, shall we say, something of a strong personality, a bit loud, and kind of dominating proceedings. In the movie of her life, I later joked to my DH, she would be played by Miriam Gargoyles at full throttle. I am sure you all know the type. But there's no law against being like that, free country, takes all sorts, etc etc. We didn't actually have anything to do with each other before the workshop.

Eventually we were divided into small groups and all the prize winners went into the workshop room with their assigned author. This woman, with the kids in school uniform, said "We're coming with him" and followed us into the workshop and plonked herself down. I wondered if she was someone's mum. We started with a bit of who we all were and so on, in the target language. She then starting muttering behind her hand to one of the sixth form students that my language skills were poor and I could not speak properly, and sniggered. This made me feel very uncomfortable - I know I speak the language just fine, I certainly was one of the better speakers in the room, and normally I would just ignore something like this on the grounds that she didn't know what she was talking about, but she had actually touched on a nerve. From my point of view, here I was being brave and exposing myself psychologically, and she was essentially starting to be a bit of a bully in the workshop, with a weird agenda. I wouldn't have minded them joining in if they were nice, but they weren't being nice. They were playing strange and inappropriate psychological games and sucking me into something I didn't like. I did not need to be picked on by a bully at that exact moment in my life, so I decided to be vigilant and sort her out if it came to that.

She sniggered about me a bit more, so then I asked her whether she was one of the prize winners. She announced she wasn't, but that one of her pupils was, and she and her other pupils had been invited to the workshop so that was why she was there. Now I could see the organisers hadn't been expecting her, and I had received the same congratulatory email as everyone else, and this was most emphatically not the case - guests were invited to the prize ceremony in the evening but not to the workshop. In addition, no other students and teachers had turned up, which made it even more obvious to everyone that she had misunderstood the email her winning student had received, and was effectively gatecrashing the event. So I responded that this was surprising, as the prize for the competition was supposed to be this workshop, and guests were invited to the evening ceremony but obviously not the workshop, as that was meant to be the prize. She said she was entitled to be there. So I said that if she hadn't entered or won, then I couldn't see what she was doing here. I added that personally speaking, this was quite a brave thing for me to be doing, and I would be grateful therefore if it could be kept to prize winners only, as originally agreed, and not language teachers and their guests. Apart from anything else, I pointed out, the group size would be very large if extra people came in.

She then let rip. I was a horrible person, I was a nasty person, she had never met anyone like me, this was outrageous, I was appalling, etc etc. I was personally attacked in front of all the other prizewinners and the organising committee. They all stood there like rabbits paralysed in the headlights. None of them did anything. We all slightly died of embarrassment.

I got my coat, and very politely said that if this was the basis on which the workshop was happening, I did not feel it was a psychologically safe space for me personally to be doing something artistic such as creative writing, and that I was going to leave and see them all later at the ceremony. I wished them well. The woman was clearly a petty bully who had singled me out for some bizarre reason, in the way that bullies do, and the prospect of me spending all afternoon in a room with her and her pupil sidekicks (one of whom I suspected was her son, as they were physically rather similar and she spent a lot of time muttering with him in a very exclusive way, sitting very close) was to me, quite frankly, highly unappealing to say the least. The organisers said that was a shame, and I should stay, as I was one of the prizewinners, so I hung my coat back up and put my stuff down again.

She then let rip even more and got threatening. She said I would be in big trouble with her headmaster, that this had been presented as a sixth form workshop for pupils and their teachers, that they had come all this way, that I was outrageous, I was disgusting, she had never met anyone as horrible as me, etc etc etc. It went on for one or two very long minutes until she drew breath. I then said (and I am not proud of this, but it did get rid of her) "Have you finished?" She just looked at me. I then said, "There's the door" and she flounced off with her coterie, muttering into the distance, leaving the one prize winning pupil behind to take part in the workshop. (I later worked out this boy was a native speaker of the target language but attending an English school and had most likely cheated by entering the school category rather than the native speaker one, but in actual fact he had only come fourth in his category anyway - runner-up - so it was not the end of the world).

The workshop went OK, after I explained I was not a horrible person and I was actually someone who loved writing and was trying a risky challenge here. In fact, the writer hosting the workshop was absolutely lovely and everyone really enjoyed it. But the shadow of the strange woman hung over it for me.

Then we went down to the evening ceremony, which was due to start in about 20 minutes time. There the bully teacher woman was again. In fact she floated around the entire space announcing in a very loud voice to anyone standing around how badly she had been treated and what a horrible person I was, over and over and over again, to anyone who would listen, making sure I was in earshot the whole time. Luckily my DH had arrived for the ceremony, so I stood with him, completely ignored her, chatted politely to a few participants and organisers from time to time, and I reckon she didn't dare come over to me because he was there (he looks very proper and CEO-like so people tend not to have a go). She then sat on the front row with the entourage from her school flanking her. Luckily she shut up during the ceremony although I would not have been surprised if she had sprung up while I was on stage to make some sort of objection, like the mad person at the wedding in a Hollywood film. I would have left at that point if DH hadn't been there, quite frankly.

Then afterwards there was a drinks party and she carried on slagging me off around the room loudly. I just ignored her and chatted nicely to a few other people, all of whom were lovely. We left pretty soon afterwards. DH took me out for a nice supper. DH is wonderful.

I have to say though that I am still feeling quite disorientated and a teensy bit upset by the proceedings and I really didn't like being painted as an evil person. Nor do I like not feeling I handled it as well as I might have done (although I was pleased at my sophisticated and very adult anger management skills as I actually wanted to bash her on the head with my handbag quite a lot of the time, but calmed myself down and behaved in a very dignified way). Clearly, though, this woman has major problems, to behave like that in public. WIBU to object to her being in the workshop?

I wish AuldAlliance or ScottishMummy had been there as they would have dealt with this woman magnificently.

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DramaAlpaca · 02/03/2017 15:12

Well played BoffinMum, you handled that so well Star

Pogolphin · 02/03/2017 15:14

I think you should write to her head and complain!

DildoGaggins · 02/03/2017 15:18

I can see why you won the award, you're obviously very good at creative writing op! Wink

RubyRoseViolet · 02/03/2017 15:18

What a hideous woman. Yes, inform the school. It wont be news to them I bet. We've all come across awful people like that and it's to your credit that you stood up to her. Really well done on your winning entry and your courage.

BoffinMum · 02/03/2017 15:25

Well 128 posts into the thread with a 100% consensus, I think I can safely say I think I did the right thing now. Thanks to all lovely MN people for taking the time to read it all through and to be so reassuring. I feel a lot better for having posted.

Have spoken to one v senior friend and I decided to write to thank the organisers in warm and pleasant tones, but to say that I think moving forwards, if a workshop is described as 'exclusive' for prize winners, they might want to make this more explicit and police entry a little more, to avoid potential awkwardness.

I am still reluctant to write to the school as it might have repercussions in the day job and I probably have bigger fish to fry. I will sleep on it.

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BurningBridges · 02/03/2017 15:30

If you want to let it lie then fair enough Boffin, well done for winning the prize and yes she was an utter arse - they get everywhere!! Wink

CarrieMyBag · 02/03/2017 15:36

I think everyone attending could judge who's the loony.

MalletsMallets · 02/03/2017 15:37

congratulations on the competition.
You handled her really well, i think i would have just left and cried.
I would probably write to the school (dependant on the day job repercussions) and say she was there representing the school, and to behave like that with pupils in tow is a poor image for the school.

LaContessaDiPlump · 02/03/2017 15:45

It sounds like you handled it perfectly, Boffin. Very well done on your achievement!!

hoddtastic · 02/03/2017 16:02

this whole situation sounds bizarre, as does the behaviour.

BoffinMum · 02/03/2017 16:06

Right, I have emailed the organisers in positive tones thanking them once again for the workshop, and suggesting how they might arrange it next year so it runs more smoothly, in the intended spirit of the event, making it clear it's a creative writing thing for prize winners rather than a language education CPD thing for sixth formers and language teachers.

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User006point5 · 02/03/2017 16:06

One of the other winners in the group was a woman roughly my age and she said she would have let it lie.
What the woman was whispering probably didn't affect her.

BoffinMum · 02/03/2017 16:07

Gaspode you are not wrong.

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TheMysteriousJackelope · 02/03/2017 16:08

I read a book with a title similar to 'How to Handle Difficult People in the Work Place' and in the section on bullies it advises letting them rant on until they run out of steam and then ask 'Have you finished?' and when they have reply 'Good, because I have work to be getting on with' so you handled her perfectly.

All she has done is make an exhibition of herself and represented her school very poorly. Who would want to send their children to be educated with someone like that as a role model for how to behave as an adult out in public?

The competition organizers are probably very nice people who have no idea how to deal with an out of control bully. Unfortunately they are dealing with strangers and some of those strangers are going to exhibit bizarre and eccentric behavior. When it effects other people, they need to be prepared to deal with it. I would write and point that out to them. Another person would have just left in tears and never wanted to enter that or a similar competition again.

BoffinMum · 02/03/2017 16:13

So way am I entering it next year!!

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BoffinMum · 02/03/2017 16:15

Do you know what? Two of the people in my workshop were shy teenage girls very much outside their comfort zone but trying incredibly hard, and I probably deflected her nonsense away from them. So I am quite pleased about that.

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PitilessYank · 02/03/2017 16:23

I bet that most people watching could tell that she was being unreasonable, but didn't want to butt in on it.

You handled it very well. I am proud of you!
Flowers

BoffinMum · 02/03/2017 16:25

Is that normal, that someone would have a tantrum like that at work and nobody would at least say "come on people, we don't need any unpleasantness". Am I expecting too much????

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SoleBizzz · 02/03/2017 16:31

YABU to not write to the teachers headteacher. You don't know what his/her reaction will be. Her behaviour in the very first instance was absolutely vile.

AyeAmarok · 02/03/2017 16:35

Well done Boffin.

I like Tween's email, however, I'd include a bit about her whispering and mocking the prizewinners in the class too.

originalbiglymavis · 02/03/2017 16:36

I would also snitch to the organisers that the kid was a native speaker.

FrancisCrawford · 02/03/2017 16:46

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viques · 02/03/2017 16:46

First of all congratulations on your win. To write creatively in a first language is hard enough, to write creatively in a second shows special abilities.

Second of all, well done for keeping your cool, challenging the awful woman and thoroughly trouncing her. I doubt she will be complaining to the head teacher as she came out of the situation so badly, but I imagine the story will be spread around the school community by the attending pupils, you are probably not the first to have been bullied by her and if that is her normal approach she will not be very popular amongst the pupils.

I am so glad you stayed for the workshop, it sounds as though you got a lot out of it.

Rafflesway · 02/03/2017 16:53

Absolutely first class Boffin!

I so understand where you are coming from though as I would be exactly the same and I think it is connected - certainly with me - to self esteem issues. So easy to see where others are in the right and are definitely being mistreated/unfairly antagonised but not so easy to avoid questioning your own actions/responses when you are the actual target. 🤔

My apologies if this has been already answered, as I only read page 1, but I am astounded the organisers allowed this woman to behave as she did without stepping in and supporting their actual prize winner. Hmm. Very poor form on their part indeed! You on the other hand were amazing! 🌟🌟🌟

GeorgeTheHamster · 02/03/2017 16:57

I think you handled it really well.

But I'm sad you posted "in the provinces" as if that were a bad thing.

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