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My competition win was hijacked by a very strange woman (bit of a long saga)

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BoffinMum · 02/03/2017 11:22

This is in AIBU because I genuinely want to know if I was, but it's borderline personally upsetting so please don't be too robust when you respond.

So I came second in a creative writing competition in another language. I was pretty pleased about this as I had last studied it at school. There were categories for secondary aged pupils, university students, native speakers and people like me (random grown ups, basically). So about 2/3 of the people there were adult winners, i.e. not at school.

The prize was a creative writing workshop with a celebrated writer. Very exciting, although I was a bit nervous about writing in the other language as I haven't done much of that for years. I speak the language really fluently with a native accent (can't say more without outing myself), but I don't write in it very often, because I never went to school or university there, so I am a bit self-conscious about things like spelling and perfect grammar, perfect idioms, etc. Admittedly I am a bit of a perfectionist. Anyway I turned up to the workshop, and waited.

Everything in the waiting area was fine except there was a woman who turned up with three independent school sixth form kids in school uniform (no other kids were in school uniform). She was, shall we say, something of a strong personality, a bit loud, and kind of dominating proceedings. In the movie of her life, I later joked to my DH, she would be played by Miriam Gargoyles at full throttle. I am sure you all know the type. But there's no law against being like that, free country, takes all sorts, etc etc. We didn't actually have anything to do with each other before the workshop.

Eventually we were divided into small groups and all the prize winners went into the workshop room with their assigned author. This woman, with the kids in school uniform, said "We're coming with him" and followed us into the workshop and plonked herself down. I wondered if she was someone's mum. We started with a bit of who we all were and so on, in the target language. She then starting muttering behind her hand to one of the sixth form students that my language skills were poor and I could not speak properly, and sniggered. This made me feel very uncomfortable - I know I speak the language just fine, I certainly was one of the better speakers in the room, and normally I would just ignore something like this on the grounds that she didn't know what she was talking about, but she had actually touched on a nerve. From my point of view, here I was being brave and exposing myself psychologically, and she was essentially starting to be a bit of a bully in the workshop, with a weird agenda. I wouldn't have minded them joining in if they were nice, but they weren't being nice. They were playing strange and inappropriate psychological games and sucking me into something I didn't like. I did not need to be picked on by a bully at that exact moment in my life, so I decided to be vigilant and sort her out if it came to that.

She sniggered about me a bit more, so then I asked her whether she was one of the prize winners. She announced she wasn't, but that one of her pupils was, and she and her other pupils had been invited to the workshop so that was why she was there. Now I could see the organisers hadn't been expecting her, and I had received the same congratulatory email as everyone else, and this was most emphatically not the case - guests were invited to the prize ceremony in the evening but not to the workshop. In addition, no other students and teachers had turned up, which made it even more obvious to everyone that she had misunderstood the email her winning student had received, and was effectively gatecrashing the event. So I responded that this was surprising, as the prize for the competition was supposed to be this workshop, and guests were invited to the evening ceremony but obviously not the workshop, as that was meant to be the prize. She said she was entitled to be there. So I said that if she hadn't entered or won, then I couldn't see what she was doing here. I added that personally speaking, this was quite a brave thing for me to be doing, and I would be grateful therefore if it could be kept to prize winners only, as originally agreed, and not language teachers and their guests. Apart from anything else, I pointed out, the group size would be very large if extra people came in.

She then let rip. I was a horrible person, I was a nasty person, she had never met anyone like me, this was outrageous, I was appalling, etc etc. I was personally attacked in front of all the other prizewinners and the organising committee. They all stood there like rabbits paralysed in the headlights. None of them did anything. We all slightly died of embarrassment.

I got my coat, and very politely said that if this was the basis on which the workshop was happening, I did not feel it was a psychologically safe space for me personally to be doing something artistic such as creative writing, and that I was going to leave and see them all later at the ceremony. I wished them well. The woman was clearly a petty bully who had singled me out for some bizarre reason, in the way that bullies do, and the prospect of me spending all afternoon in a room with her and her pupil sidekicks (one of whom I suspected was her son, as they were physically rather similar and she spent a lot of time muttering with him in a very exclusive way, sitting very close) was to me, quite frankly, highly unappealing to say the least. The organisers said that was a shame, and I should stay, as I was one of the prizewinners, so I hung my coat back up and put my stuff down again.

She then let rip even more and got threatening. She said I would be in big trouble with her headmaster, that this had been presented as a sixth form workshop for pupils and their teachers, that they had come all this way, that I was outrageous, I was disgusting, she had never met anyone as horrible as me, etc etc etc. It went on for one or two very long minutes until she drew breath. I then said (and I am not proud of this, but it did get rid of her) "Have you finished?" She just looked at me. I then said, "There's the door" and she flounced off with her coterie, muttering into the distance, leaving the one prize winning pupil behind to take part in the workshop. (I later worked out this boy was a native speaker of the target language but attending an English school and had most likely cheated by entering the school category rather than the native speaker one, but in actual fact he had only come fourth in his category anyway - runner-up - so it was not the end of the world).

The workshop went OK, after I explained I was not a horrible person and I was actually someone who loved writing and was trying a risky challenge here. In fact, the writer hosting the workshop was absolutely lovely and everyone really enjoyed it. But the shadow of the strange woman hung over it for me.

Then we went down to the evening ceremony, which was due to start in about 20 minutes time. There the bully teacher woman was again. In fact she floated around the entire space announcing in a very loud voice to anyone standing around how badly she had been treated and what a horrible person I was, over and over and over again, to anyone who would listen, making sure I was in earshot the whole time. Luckily my DH had arrived for the ceremony, so I stood with him, completely ignored her, chatted politely to a few participants and organisers from time to time, and I reckon she didn't dare come over to me because he was there (he looks very proper and CEO-like so people tend not to have a go). She then sat on the front row with the entourage from her school flanking her. Luckily she shut up during the ceremony although I would not have been surprised if she had sprung up while I was on stage to make some sort of objection, like the mad person at the wedding in a Hollywood film. I would have left at that point if DH hadn't been there, quite frankly.

Then afterwards there was a drinks party and she carried on slagging me off around the room loudly. I just ignored her and chatted nicely to a few other people, all of whom were lovely. We left pretty soon afterwards. DH took me out for a nice supper. DH is wonderful.

I have to say though that I am still feeling quite disorientated and a teensy bit upset by the proceedings and I really didn't like being painted as an evil person. Nor do I like not feeling I handled it as well as I might have done (although I was pleased at my sophisticated and very adult anger management skills as I actually wanted to bash her on the head with my handbag quite a lot of the time, but calmed myself down and behaved in a very dignified way). Clearly, though, this woman has major problems, to behave like that in public. WIBU to object to her being in the workshop?

I wish AuldAlliance or ScottishMummy had been there as they would have dealt with this woman magnificently.

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DartmoorDoughnut · 02/03/2017 11:49

I think you handled that horrible woman brilliantly!

Congratulations on your win Star

Bipbopbee · 02/03/2017 11:50

I'm impressed Op, well done! You stood up to her bullying behaviour, which she has clearly never come across before. She couldn't handle you calling her out, so made out you were the bad one so that her vile behaviour was deflected. It was a shame one of the organisers didn't ask her to leave first.
Congratulations on your win and for staying put!

OneWithTheForce · 02/03/2017 11:50

Spot on handling IMO. You should teach assertiveness classes! Grin

diddl · 02/03/2017 11:50

What a horrible experience & how pathetic of the organisers not to tell her to piss off if she shouldn't have been there.

Sounds as if you handled it very well.

I'd have to complain I think.

"She said I would be in big trouble with her headmaster, "

Sorry, had to laugh at that.

RaspberryOverloadsOnChilli · 02/03/2017 11:50

I'd be inclined to write to the organisers to point out that they failed to deal with the situation adequately and that you felt let down. Then suggest that if they run this competition again, they need to have a robust plan in place to prevent this kind if incident.

And yes agree to writing to the school if you know which it was.

senua · 02/03/2017 11:52

Congratulations on your creative writing and winning the prize. Concentrate on the best bits of the day (sounds like there were plenty of pluses) and ignore Miriam Margolyes. Don't give her the headspace.

I'm sure that you will write a lovely letter to the organisers, thanking them for the experience and suggesting ideas that they could take forward to next year's competition.

badtime · 02/03/2017 11:53

OP, she may have been going around saying how horrible you were, but I guarantee that everyone there was thinking about how horrible she was. People were probably very grateful that you asked her to leave, particularly if she was making bitchy comments in the workshop, and anyone who agreed with her would have to be an arse to begin with.

And you mentioned Trump - she was the one who couldn't let things go, and had to broadcast her worthless opinion to all and sundry. Making a complaint/report about the unprofessional way she represented her school would not be the same thing at all.

MessiIsTheBest · 02/03/2017 11:53

Had to laugh at Miriam Gargoyles I never knew she'd been called that Grin It's Margolyes for the benefit of anyone who (albeit unlikely) didn't know

SoupDragon · 02/03/2017 11:53

I would complain to both the organisers and the woman's school.

ITGurl · 02/03/2017 11:54

Well done, I'm really impressed at how you handled it. I can see that the unexpected confidence in you probably came from the fact you went to such effort to enter and win competition that you weren't going to let some horrible woman ruin it.
Your sense of justice prevailed and conquered!

I sued to be a bit of a walkover but since I had children I find that I am able to stand up for myself more. I used to find if one of my DSs was overlooked or someone treated them unfairly, I had to be their advocate and could speak out, but I couldn't do the same for myself. Now I try and it really does help. So what if the odd person thinks I'm a bitch, at least life is fairer and easier.
I did it yesterday morning while waiting in a queue for a woman who didn't seem to realise the queue was getting longer while we waited for her to drop her child in the nursery door, blocking the door so no one else could drop their child. She blanked me this morning, but at least she was quick!

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 02/03/2017 11:54

If she was a teacher at a school, I think you should contact the headmaster

BevGoldbergsSister · 02/03/2017 11:56

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PhilODox · 02/03/2017 11:57

Gosh- it sounds like something from a John O'Farrell book! (Particularly May Contain Nuts).

Congratulations, anyway. To do that in another language is amazing, well done. Standing up to someone like that is beyond fabulous- I don't imagine people do that very often.

laureywilliams · 02/03/2017 11:57

It's horrible coming across some one like that. Fortunately it doesn't happen too often.

Ywnbu.

If you hadn't have spoken up you'd be hating yourself now. Well done.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 02/03/2017 11:59

You might have been unreasonable to ask her to leave just for gatecrashing as that was for the organisers to tackle, but given that she was disruptive and rude, you did the right thing.

I would write to her headteacher. I wouldn't ask for a response or for him to do anything, but I bet he'd like to know.

BettyBaggins · 02/03/2017 11:59

Write about it, it could become a really funny short story or play! Well done for being a winner. Flowers

BoffinMum · 02/03/2017 11:59

I think Senua has a good suggestion. The most dignified thing would be to write to the organisers, and thank them again for my prizes (I was given some super books as well) and suggest next time they make it absolutely explicit what the workshop is for, i.e. it is not a school trip so bat shit teachers can bunk off school for the day with their pet pupils on a jolly (I will however phrase it considerably more elegantly than that).

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QueenArseClangers · 02/03/2017 12:00

Well done OP.

Must say the event organisers sound like a bunch of spineless twats though. I can't fucking stand that, people standing round all ineffectual.

Bet her pupils were embarrassed, I'd be dropping her HT a shit sandwich email: 'Nice to see your school represented, knobber teacher was an atrocious cunt, your pupil did well in the workshop'.

Don't let it lie Boffin, let her managers know what a fucker she was Flowers

user1484394242 · 02/03/2017 12:03

You are amazing, OP. I am so impressed with the way you handled it all. Well done. And congratulations on your win, too.

It's appalling that the organisers didn't step in and stop her. She should not have been allowed to stay after her behaviour at the beginnng. Definitely write to the organisers and let them know what you think.

Rubies12345 · 02/03/2017 12:04

She said I would be in big trouble with her headmaster

How could that ever happen? Is he going to come round to your house Grin

DreamingOfADifferentMe · 02/03/2017 12:05

Oh Boffin, you are a hero. You handled it perfectly, especially the 'Are you finished?' line. Seriously in awe of you and wish you were my friend.

So there.

KoalaDownUnder · 02/03/2017 12:05

What a deranged cowbag!

You were a Star. Halo

TinfoilHattie · 02/03/2017 12:06

Congratulations on your win, Boffin.

Well done for having the guts to tackle this obnoxious women and her coven. Glad it worked out. However the organisers of the event shouldn't have let it get that far and I'd be feeding back to them that if they should organise something similar in the future they need to have more robust procedures for checking who is there, and who shouldn't be there.

BertsBlanket · 02/03/2017 12:07

The organisers could easily have asked you to leave if you looked like the one causing a scene, or have even just let you leave when you tried to.

They didn't, which suggests nobody though she was anything other than a bully.

You stood your ground and she wasn't used to that! Well done.

fairweathercyclist · 02/03/2017 12:08

She said I would be in big trouble with her headmaster

I'd send him an email telling him about the incident...

...also wondering why the organisers were so toothless but they were probably slightly in shock

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