To not want to shave anymore

[Grindelwaldswand]

So recently I decided i couldn't be bothered with give myself a full Brazilian every few days so I stopped shaving apart from my legs and armpits but DP is driving me mental with his insistence that it's wrong and gross and he doesn't want/won't have sex with me till i shave it i know Im not been unreasonable but he's driving me mental !! Its my bloody body not his

I don't find men who tell me what I can do with my own body attractive.

I find it fascinating that nobody in the "it's disgusting/smelly/unhygienic/dirty" camp is ever prepared to defend her position when asked to. I suppose it's a bit tough thinking about what articulating views like that says about your attitude to other women.

I shave my legs if they are going to be on show because I think they look nicer shaved, but I'm not blind enough to think that my preference has come about in a vacuum.
Pubes I would leave au naturel (because dh doesn't care and nobody else sees them) except that I genuinely do feel cleaner and less sweaty if I trim them. It's all very well to say that it's 'natural' to have full pubes, but you could argue that what's not very natural is to cover an already warm and hair-covered part of your body with several layers of clothing. On balance I'd rather trim the hair than go around with a full bush and no knickers and trousers. People would talk.

Right Bert wind it in, I'll tell you...I make my choice of pubic styling because I (me, mine own self) feel cleaner and fresher after a seriously physical time working with horses. I don't give a fuck what anyone else does and it has precisely jack shit to do with my "attitude" to other women.

But thank God the "feminists" are here to tell us to sit down, shut up and that we can't think for ourselves. Oh, the irony!

It'd take more than the removal of a small triangle of body hair to make me feel cleaner and fresher after a day muckihg out, poo picking and lunging........

So the implication is that those of us who have absolutely no aesthetic preference for shaving/trimming, and do not have a partner who expects it of us, are lying when we say we feel cleaner that way?

I would happily defend any woman's right to keep all body hair and would in fact admire her for doing so in the face of convention. I totally agree that the OP's dp should shut the fuck up. I've admitted I shave my legs for aesthetic reasons which cannot be totally of my own making. However, I simply have no such reasons for pube trimming. I don't even prefer the look of it. It's purely for comfort and unsweatiness.

I know that on these threads comparisons with men shaving usually spark outrage. But surely nobody can doubt that a man's decision about whether to have a beard or not can be just as much based on comfort, hygiene and temperature as on fashion or social convention. Many men choose not to have beards because they find them hot, itchy or uncomfortable or because they don't fancy carrying around bits of breakfast in them. I fail to see why women are not allowed to make similar decisions about body hair without being derided or disbelieved.

It's not "personal preference", else more women in previous generations would've had that preference too. It's cultural pressure, due largely to porn.

Didn't the ancient Egyptians used sugaring methods to remove their pubic hair a few thousand years ago?

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Women once they grew pubes, just didn't shave in times gone by.
They therefore would not have tried shaving (as it would have been considered weird) therefore had not tried both so didn't know if they had a preference.
I think there are many different cultures where it was the cultural norm, just not here.

I don't think her partner should refuse to have sex with her, but if he actually finds it unattractive then you'd think she would try and find a solution to that even if it is not a Brazilian. I'd hate my hubby to find something unnatractive/unsexy about me and not to say anything for fear of being called an arse.
You need to find a way of it not causing you discomfort though because he should not expect you to live in discomfort purely for his sexual preferences.

Her DP needs to find a solution to his problem with finding pubic hair on women wrong and gross.

Like growing the fuck up.

I love my big bush, it's curly like my head hair.

I agree with a pp that said about the hygeine thing- if you shave it off then I honestly couldn't care less, but don't say it's unhygienic not to, because it's a load of rubbish.

I'm bisexual and I would be really put off by hair down there on a woman. I just find it really unattractive. So he's not being unreasonable. You don't have to shave, but it's okay for him not to be attracted to you until you do.

I couldn't do anything sexual with a woman who was hairy!

I couldn't do anything sexual with a woman who was hairy!

Lucky mares have probably dodged a bullet then.

I won't shag any man unless he has shaved around his cock.

Not really. Who are these mentallists who are so repulsed by hair? Do they have really fragile sex-drives or something?

If having pubic hair was unsexy then it's amazing we are all here now! The human race would have died out centuries ago.

Shaving the pubes is a recent fashion, and has been promoted by the porn industry. I find it very sad that so many women think it is necessary in order to be attractive.

We all have things we find attractive and things we do.

If a wee bit of hair is what stops you having sex with somebody then... I dispair.

My dh is a fucking nightmare some days. But at least he doesn't spout shite like this.

I can only have sex with a woman if she is wearing a push up bra, a white g.string, full face of make-up and straightened her hair. Otherwise, its unattractive and frankly not worth the bother.

Modern life, eh.

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Right Bert wind it in, I'll tell you...I make my choice of pubic styling because I (me, mine own self) feel cleaner and fresher after a seriously physical time working with horses. I don't give a fuck what anyone else does and it has precisely jack shit to do with my "attitude" to other women.But thank God the "feminists" are here to tell us to sit down, shut up and that we can't think for ourselves. Oh, the irony!

This ^

This is what fucks me right off. I mean a woman couldn't possibly shave her muff and wear a short skirt, because she likes how it makes her feel, and how she looks; it HAS to be 'because society expects it' or 'to please her man.' And if she says different she is a big fat liar!

And so what if she is doing it because her man likes it? I mean just how DARE we do something to please our man? Letting the sisterhood down you are gal! Grow that muff, gain 40 pounds, cover your legs, cover your boobs, and scrub all your makeup off! Fuck what any man thinks! ~yawn~

And yes I DO feel much more comfortable and clean with a trimmed and neat bush. So shoot me! Jeez!

I can only have sex with a woman if she is wearing a push up bra, a white g.string, full face of make-up and straightened her hair. Otherwise, its unattractive and frankly not worth the bother.

PMSL Birdy. You sound like my kinda man! I just love men who tell me what to do and refuse to shag me unless I'm a size 6, fully made up, have a boob job, and shave my muff.

"I fail to see why women are not allowed to make similar decisions about body hair without being derided or disbelieved."

I''m not deriding or disbelieving. I leave the deriding to the "Euuu-pubic hair! It's so smelly and dirty and unhygenic" brigade.

I am saying that nobody ....nobody...... makes a decision in a vacuum. And it has, surely, to be more than coincidental that women suddenly started removing their pubic hair in significant numbers at the same time that porn became widely available. I think it's important that people think about why they do things. And the pubic hair is dirty and smelly narrative is damaging.

I love that not removing public hair fits oh-so-naturally into a list including gaining several stone, wearing body covering clothes and no make up.