To ask how this is all going to end

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I see Brexit and Trump as symptomatic of a rise in right wing views (FWIW I do believe there is a legitimate argument for Brexit just that it has been overshadowed by other issues). In some respects I can even see where they are coming from (protectionist stand point) but what I don't understand is how any good can come of what is happening now. I don't believe Trump has the capacity to MAGA because the world he wants back does not exist anymore. I think his actions have a huge global impact and he is totally destabilising peace within western civilisations.

Genuinely what do people believe is going to happen now and how is this all going to end?

There wont be world war three. those of us old enough to remember Reagan remember loads of crap being written about him and how it would all end and it didn't

But it's not as the only two choices are WW3 or 'everything fine'.' The question is where on the continuum of fine to complete disaster we will end up. We can fall short of total war while still ending up in a very bad place.

I've lived through the cold war and seen some pretty crazy leaders in my time, but Trump really does worry me.

He needs a straitjacket and heavy, long term sedation. There's something seriously disordered about him and he's as thick as pigshit. This is always a dangerous combination.

I really hope he goes, and soon. I don't give a damn what the american voters want, safety always comes first.

Do people realise Pence is worse? There's too many people in this world who can't be bothered to vote but are quick to complain when things don't go the way they want them to.

And yet there's a huge number of Americans who think trump is wonderful and has acted correctly in recent days

Yes, absolutely Pence is worse

People (voters) get it wrong all the time. Look how many supported Hitler.

I haven't read all the replies but I feel very worried

Do people realise Pence is worse?

Fuck yes, because he has a political brain in his head as well as the rest. I'm hoping whatever scandal or bomb takes him out at the same time as Trump.....

I hope the people will say enough is enough and do what they can to try and regain power, but at the same time Trump isn't stupid, he'll have plans ready made for such an event. Look at his attitude to the protests worldwide.
His rhetoric is the same as those who have brushed all remainers as remoaners because we're a bit shocked it actually happened. If you bear in mind 52% voted to leave, that's 52% who are... can't think of any words, don't want to blanket all as racists, but I think that was a big motivation.
As Trump supporters are discovering, democracy allowed these decisions, this is what happens.

Lots of posters on this thread who genuinely think right-wing politics are as respectable as left-wing politics. Jesus Christ.
Which part of an ultra left-wing government would be purposefully sexist, racist or misogynistic?

Ummmmmm..... Stalin?

Chairman Mao.

Pol Pot.

I don't think people do think that ultra right wing politics are right. I haven't heard that all. I do think though, that like other posters have said, there is no middle ground: you're either a flaky Corbyn loving leftie or a misyognitic racist. Most people are neither. If you look at the Brexit debate you really see it. You're either a "remoaner" or a "brexshitter" and actually the lines are not that clear.

I think that Pence at least is a 'known, known' standard-issue evangelical Republican. Much like George W Bush - with that implies.

But Trump is a loose canon, I have no idea what he's going to do next. I'm not even sure he's in the pocket of big business and will act in certain predictable ways to maintain market interests.

Stalin, Mao, Pot, none of them were what they said they were, or what a lot of people like to categorise them as. Stalin for example was red facist, never a true communist, with more in common with Hitler than Trotsky!

Maybe Heatherjayne1972 but only ~26% of Americans voted for Trump, and I doubt all of them will think he's acted correctly over the past eleven days.

That's an awful lot more Americans who didn't vote for him and may not think he has acted correctly in his presidential term to date.

The line between facism and communism is very narrow.

I am profoundly disturbed by Trump's election to the presidency. Everything about his character and his behaviour makes me shudder in horror. He is a brash racist xenophobic homophobic antisemitic misogynist caricature. He has neither grace nor dignity nor wit.

He has no credibility whatsoever as a head of state, has multiple bankruptcies behind him and has no political experience at all. Let me be clear about this, this man is utterly unfit to act as President of anything much less the most powerful country on the planet.

This might be comedic if it were not so appalling and the consequences so very awful. He poses a very real danger to the peace and economic / political stability of not just the United States but to the rest of the world as well.

They said the same about us (Irish). Many of us are f#%%ing terrified, have been since at least 9/11 (since WW2 actually) and IMO this is what this is all about, covering up crimes of the past by committing again (they have a 'wioe the slate clean' mentality). They're angry with us for pointing the finger at them about this stuff past and present. They thought they'd get away with it and those they crushed would continue as normal. They're so insane but backed by some criminally wealthy people.

The problem is Trump is Obama's legacy. People were obviously so unhappy under Obama that they voted in fucking Trump. Don't get me wrong, I love Barack Obama and think he is great, but you can't get away from the fact that he must have had something to do with Trump getting elected?

The problem is Trump is Obama's legacy

Nonsense. Blaming someone who does a great job for the tit head that comes after him is ridiculous. Blame the people who voted, not the person leaving.

Blame the people who voted, not the person leaving.

Yes, but why did they vote that way? If Obama had done such a great job, why didn't people just vote for more of the same in Hillary?

Tempting as it may be, dismissing Trump supporters as ignorant fuckwits is part of why the problem comes around in the first place. Same with Brexit voters.

They didn't vote him in. Clinton got 3 million more votes. She won the popular vote. The electoral college swung it.

I recognise that part of the electorate were unhappy with Obama's administration but I am utterly aghast at their choice for their next head of state.

Obama is an experienced politician with the intelligence and gravitas to carry himself well on the world stage and to forge good diplomatic relations with other heads of state. He has largely avoided serious controversy whilst in office and has done much that he should be proud of and that the American people should be proud of.

Trump is the very extreme opposite, someone you might charitably describe as intellectually challenged, without a shred of the necessary humility, poise or intelligence, or indeed the relevant political experience to be a successful President. He is currently lurching from one political disaster to another, his administration is already in chaos and I really do hope that this ends in impeachment for him.

We do seem to be losing centre ground, the left seem to be taking the stand that you are either with us or a piece of shit and the right are taking advantage

I think this is scarily true.