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To wonder how far Trump will be allowed to go

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BishopBrennansArse · 26/01/2017 16:34

before action is taken for the world's safety?

So far we've seen executive orders to increase nuclear defences, build the wall and stop all entry to the US from at least seven countries. Also executive orders winding female reproductive rights back several decades. There rumblings of restoring torture and various other things that aren't official yet.

Quite honestly this is part borne of my ignorance of how American constitution works but so far I'm really worried and wondering just quite how far he's going to be able to go before there are moves to stop him?

Before he was elected there was lots of 'don't worry he has to get through the house first' but he's done so much this week just because he wants to.

How much more?

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LuluLovesFruitcakes · 26/01/2017 20:49

I've solved 'The Wall' issue ..... The whole world club together and build the wall for Trump only it's built around the entire American border that way the Americans can be isolated and sealed in (like an Egyptian king) with their idiot president that THEY voted in and then they wont need to bother the rest of us normal civilised beings

Best idea ever Grin

And fwiw - Threads is fucking terrifying.

Andylion · 26/01/2017 20:52

Threads was awful - and it was terrifying precisely because it was so realistic and you could imagine it happening.
The wiki paged linked, above, to Threads, had a link to the American tv movie, The Day After. It was similar. I don't recall much of it but I do recall it was very disturbing. I think we discussed it in school the next day.

derxa · 26/01/2017 20:53

Yawn

Lorelei76 · 26/01/2017 20:55

is it just me that wasn't disturbed by that? I mean, I was when I was a child and it was all over the TV I was disturbed but that was more because I didn't understand I could just opt out if all that happened.

Tbh if we're going back to the days of knitting needles and having a skin colour that makes me inferior, the world can end as far as I'm concerned.

EagleIsland · 26/01/2017 20:56

Threads is a very interesting and accurate portrayal for a nuclear war.

Unfortunately the U.K. Isn't as prepared for this scenario as it was at the time the film was released

BlankEtc · 26/01/2017 21:18

Actually, China are investing in renewable energy and have invested more than any other country.

www.publicfinanceinternational.org/news/2016/03/china-worlds-largest-investor-renewable-energy

RedToothBrush · 26/01/2017 21:36

I don't think nuclear war will be on the cards for a while at least. First Trump has to take control of the US and that will keep him busy enough. America First remember. It will take a while before he gets around to doing a lot about China.

Talk of nuclear war actually misses a lot of the point.

The real and immediate danger is what he does to people living in the US. There is plenty of damage he can do. He can effectively sentence millions to death without the aid of the bomb.

He already has taken steps to withdraw aid for any over seas agencies that even mention abortion, which has huge implications for other health care programmes too.

novelsandnaps · 26/01/2017 21:38

Just wanted to link to a short poem for Eagle...

www.ushmm.org/wlc/mobile/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007392

Niaus267 · 26/01/2017 21:40

As a bit of an aside, and if you want to be utterly depressed, this is worth a read: www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/26/donald-trumps-brazen-first-interview-as-president-annotated/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_pp-trumptv-330am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory - especially the annotations throughout. Just when I don't think my mind could boggle anymore (and that's even with me living in a part of the U.K. that's quite literally going up in smoke!)

Deadsouls · 26/01/2017 21:43

Has anyone posted this? Interview with transcript. More proof if needed that Trump is a delusional narcissist.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-abc-news-anchor-david-muir-interviews-president/story?id=45047602

Chippednailvarnishing · 26/01/2017 22:16

Bernhard langer Shock

zen1 · 26/01/2017 22:22

I bought Threads on Dvd 10 odd years ago. Took it away to watch in a hotel with dh on a break when I was 5 months pregnant. Ended up regretting watching it at night before sleep. In fact, after that, I didn't sleep well for the entire break.

It was on TV in the eighties when I was a child and I remember my dad banning me from watching both that and The Day After. Having watched it as an adult, I'm glad he did!

PickAChew · 26/01/2017 22:32

DS1 has been on form, tonight. He said that if Trump builds a wall, it should be around himself.

He also suggested that the only red button he should be allowed near is on a TV remote.

fakenamefornow · 26/01/2017 22:37

I fear that the more extreme he gets, the more popular he's going to get. I think plenty of Americans would love to see mass deportations, and terror suspects tortured, plenty in Britain as well. Until very recently most people wanted to bring back the death penalty, according to poles anyway. I bet they're going to have loads more executions in America under Trump as well, and Americans will be flag waving and cheering him on.

Niaus267 · 26/01/2017 22:37

Yep Deadsouls, just a different link. Horrendous.

EagleIsland · 26/01/2017 22:42

novelsandnaps

Thanks certainly an appropriate poem

fakenamefornow · 26/01/2017 22:54

Actually I don't like that poem much, but thanks for posting. I don't like it because it paints the reader as an innocent bystander and victim. I much prefer this poem.

michaelrosenblog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/fascism-i-sometimes-fear.html

It paints the reader as the perpetrator and shows how we can be sucked in to supporting atrocities before we even realise. It asked the reader to examine the darkness in our own hearts.

Such unfortunate timing with Brexit, TM will be sucking up to him in desperation for a trade deal to make up for EU trade.

Comfortzone · 26/01/2017 23:01

So is May's main discourse with Trump going to be Trident? Both fond of the old nuclear weapon? Blooming heck

Lorelei76 · 26/01/2017 23:10

Oh Ive just seen May talking about Dump. That was well OTT. Perhaps she thinks he'll nuke us. Actually that's better than listening to people kowtow to him. There was no need for her brown nose like that.

SideOrderofSprouts · 26/01/2017 23:21

I think the thing with threads is there is no happy ever after so many films have now. It's gritty and real. And utterly terrifying

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/01/2017 23:23

Threads was awful - and it was terrifying precisely because it was so realistic and you could imagine it happening

Quite - and so glad it's not just me

IvorHughJarrs · 26/01/2017 23:49

May has to be diplomatic and maintain the best possible relations with the USA. She does not have the luxury of being able to act on feelings or her own opinion

Those people suggesting the CIA should resolve this amaze me. Is assassination of a democratically elected official OK as long as the people wishing for it are left wing liberals? I suspect there are some shadowy forces at work in the world at the moment and, although I have no clue who they are or what they want, I wonder whose hands we are playing into when social media starts whipping things up to the point that shooting politicians you don't like seems acceptable. I dislike Trump and a lot of what he has said and done but think this online panicking is not helping anyone.

Lorelei76 · 27/01/2017 00:01

Ivor that's what I said upthread
But her speech wasn't diplomatic, it was gushing. There was no need for that.

CockacidalManiac · 27/01/2017 00:08

although I have no clue who they are or what they want

But their legacy remains
Hewn into the living rock, of Stonehenge

CockacidalManiac · 27/01/2017 00:28

Hopefully we might not need the CIA to do the decent thing after all.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-carl-bernstein-republicans-emotional-voter-fraud-inauguration-count-a7547301.html

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