To think that men can never become pregnant or carry a pregnancy?

[Manumission]

And that this must be yet another very confusing week in which to be seven years old or thereabouts?

Nearly every week is an irritating week in which to be a clear thinker of any age but I've been really pondering this morning what it felt like to figure the world out as a child. I'm glad I'm not one ATM and that I don't have smallish ones.

What??

I'm aware of the Sun's "pregnant man" story over the weekend, and agree it's nonsense. But what has being 7 got to do with it?

It's obviously a trans man who is pregnant, so not that confusing. I'm sure your 7 yr old could understand perfectly well.

YABU.

Children are often more capable of understanding than adults. Though unfortunately will be greatly affected by what they are taught.

I have to say I hate the arguments that XYZ shouldn't happen because it might be confusing for little kids. Kids tend to be open minded and even my four year old can understand plenty if you take two seconds to explain, although he's fairly unlikely to be reading the Sun in the first place. If a young child does start reading the newspaper there are far more upsetting stories they'll find than a trans person carrying a baby.

I am many years more than 7 and confused as hell.
How does a woman who believes 100% she is a man get themselves into the position of becoming pregnant in the first place.

That's been the experience of the human species so far. Those born with one sort of physical equipment, however they may feel about their identity, cannot get pregnant; and indeed those born with the other sort, however they may feel about their identity, cannot beget a baby on those born with the first sort. As for the bullshit in the Sun, I doubt it would interest a 7 year old.

Oliversmummy the beauty of it is that it makes no difference to you how this man was feeling or what he believed about any of this.

Just the angle on it that popped into my head Hermione

(I've being re-reading Micheal Frayn's Spies so that probably had a bearing TBH)

Yes it's nonsense but it's just a cheap headline used to grab people's attention and get page clicks. The message for children should be not to believe any old rubbish they read in the tabloids.

jaxing you are naïve if you think this has no effect on women.

Venture over to the feminism board to open your eyes regarding the insidious erosion of women as a subset of population based on the bizarre wants of the trans movement.

I am many years more than 7 and confused as hell

IKWYM

Anyone remember the movie 'junior'?

Nearly every week is an irritating week in which to be a clear thinker of any age

I wouldn't know.

Those of you saying that it's tabloid this or that; It isn't, is it? It's the new orthodoxy.

"A man is pregnant."

"An actual man is actually pregnant"

Query if you dare.

Never mind that such an occurrence is impossible.

Was it Arnie unicorn?

Anyone remember the movie 'junior'?

Yep Loved it as a child and now as an adult I can appreciate how ridiculous it was

Who knows what may happen in the future though.....

We teach our children the "facts of life" and it is fact that a man cannot get pregnant.
The headlines for these types of stories are always attention grabbing - Man pregnant or first women to fight on the front line blah blah blah.

It's beyond ridiculous now.
I could not careless what they call themselves or how they dress/live their lives but I do believe the correct terms need to be used. What is so wrong with saying trans man or trans women?

Exactly Racoon.

Words have meanings and all that.

I saw this story shared on facebook. I just dont understand how someone can apparently feel so disconnected from their 'female-ness' that they choose to present themselves as a man. Then go through the most 'female' thing they possibly could.

Surely if you truly 'felt like a man' whatever that means then becoming pregnant and giving birth would be the furthest thing from your mind?!

"Person with womb gets pregnant" - not news

I wonder if news stories like this could actually turn out to be helpful - by showing how fundamentally silly it is to use the word "man" in a story like this.

If the words "woman" and "man" are to become meaningless as they are to become entirely unrelated to a person's biological or psychological makeup then we will start to need new words for "individual with XX chromosomes" and "individual with XY chromosomes" which can be used without the loading of historical sexism (which we hope will become a thing of the past) only when it is relevant (which will be rarely). It could actually get quite utopian IF we can get rid of the fundamental sexism within modern culture which continues to insist that it is appropriate to equate "woman"/"girl" with "likes pretty pink things, make-up hair and nails" and "man"/"boy" with "likes superheroes and battle games and climbing trees". Self-evident bollocks. The utopian ideal would come if we could just star perceiving people as people first and stop assuming that their chromosomes have any power to dictate their likes and dislikes or personality or indeed anything other than their ability to gestate a child.

No, a male cannot conceive, bear and birth a child. A female who calls herself a man, that's it.

If the words "woman" and "man" are to become meaningless as they are to become entirely unrelated to a person's biological or psychological makeup then we will start to need new words for "individual with XX chromosomes" and "individual with XY chromosomes" which can be used without the loading of historical sexism (which we hope will become a thing of the past) only when it is relevant (which will be rarely).

Interesting.

So "man" and "woman" become frippery things that you just "feel like" (a la Shania Twain) and at the same time some biological reality gets reasserted without all the gender guff? That's quite appealing.