To think that men can never become pregnant or carry a pregnancy?

[Manumission]

And that this must be yet another very confusing week in which to be seven years old or thereabouts?

Nearly every week is an irritating week in which to be a clear thinker of any age but I've been really pondering this morning what it felt like to figure the world out as a child. I'm glad I'm not one ATM and that I don't have smallish ones.

[toconclude]

Yet another transphobic "won't someone think of the Children" thread. Remember that a trans teacher was goaded by parents at a school to kill themself and Littlejohn at the Mail egged them on? But that's OK by mumsnet? Shame.
Children understand perfectly well if adults around them don't behave like gits.

[RacoonBandit]

Jog on Toco your brand of tripe is not wanted here.

[RacoonBandit]

Oh before you go do you actually understand the definition of transphobic......if you did you would know this thread is nothing of the sort.

[noeffingidea]

The first gender reassignment surgery was carried out in 1930, yet this surgery can still have complications and is not seen as satisfactory by many people. And that is a much less complicated and smaller procedure than the (hypothetical) transplantation of a uterus into a male body. You can't just 'construct' human anatomy.
missstein if you still think this is quite 'reasonable' then you clearly know absolutely nothing about surgery or human anatomy. If you've ever worked inside an operating theatre (I have) you would know that this just isn't really realistic.

[JaxingJump]

I love the way people are getting all worked up about this 'transplanting a uterus into a man' issue. Someone even said it was another example of male entitlement. Lol!

[MissStein]

Im not saying that the physical act of carrying it out is reasonable, in fact ive said it would take many years of medical and scientific breakthroughs, and isnt something i will probably ever see in my lifetime. But the reasons behind people thinking about it and trying to do it are understandable. 100 years ago the thought of having a human heart transplant was unthinkable, impossible. Hell if you told someone in 100 that we'd all be running about with little computers in our hand that could connect us to the connective knowledge of the world, im pretty sure they'd tell you it wasnt possible. Saying something scientific will never happen because we cant do it in our current time seems really short sighted. If there is money and prestige to be made out of it, some unscrupulous country will attempt it and if successful, the rest of the world will follow for fear of missing out. It may not be a womb transplant but rather some form of incubator. We already dabble with artificial organs.

[FloraFox]

Carrying out the research needed for a man to carry a child is a shameful waste of money that could be used to find cures for things that actually harm people and there is no justification for exposing the foetus to harm. If a man wants to have a child and is fertile, there is already a method. If he needs fertility treatment to produce health sperm, that is another matter.

[MissStein]

Florafox, and probably those reasons the research will never take place in the UK. But there are plenty of other countries who dont share the same morals as the UK.

The only way for a fertile man to have a child is through a woman. I can see why a man would cut this out and deal with it direct if it were scientifically doable, therefore ensuring he was the only parent of his child, in the same way that a woman who uses a donor sperm is. In fact does the UK even recognise surrogacy?

[splendide]

Sorry I thought you were talking about uterine transplants generally and the ethics of putting an embryo in an implanted uterus.

I'd have thought the biggest bar to a male pregnancy would be the insane amount of messing with the immune system you'd have to do. I agree with a previous poster that a completely artificial womb would happen first.

[BeyondTheStarryNight]

I would imagine that theoretically it would make more sense to work on brain transplants. Then not only could the brain in "the wrong body" be put into the right one, it could have actual medical uses too.

And we're not sticking an organ somewhere it has no place to be, simply replacing an existing one with another