To believe that Theresa May will not trigger A50 this year?

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Yes, I know there is an EU referendum topic hidden away on MN but this is a genuine AIBU.

Anyone else think she won't be stupid enough to trigger Article 50 in 2017?

I hope she doesn't! But if she doesn't, MPs will probably start a motion of no confidence in her.

Does anyone actually have any confidence in her?

wished she bloody well get on with it and stop faffing about, nothing is going to change the result,nor should it, just sort it out !

She'll trigger it and then scarper when it fucks up.

YABU unfortunately. She really has no choice, even if she didn't want to.

I hope she does. We need to get on with it. What is the point of dithering and weakening our position?

snap i think we might be in the minority here, but who cares, it's a free country.

It will be triggered. Whether it's triggered by her or a vote of parliament is what we're waiting on isn't it? Either way it will be.

Would dithering until after at least after the French elections and even the German be a bad thing?

Nah. She has to.

Yabu not to post this in EU referendum section when you know full well it's there and it's just another goady remoaner thread.

What onion said. TM won't care about the fall out. The less well of will be picking up the pieces.

I hope she doesn't. But I'll be getting my house valued in a few weeks on the assumption that she will.

remoaner thread

It's not another goady remoaner thread. Tbh it's a welcome relief from all the hysteria over MILs daring to kiss their grandchildren and cleaning kitchens with disinfectant wipes.

For what its worth, no.
I think she will go actually.
Or call a GE. Its all a mess.

Anyway her hand will be forced. She seems intent on it. Given today's events with Ivan Roger's resignation I really see the whole thing imploding rather spectacularly as the year unfolds.

January will bring news of the court case too ( gina and the plumbers) Am looking forwards to that news. It will hold things up if nothing else.

Of course she will.

And it will all happen and people will have to accept it because that's just the way it is. I'm looking forward to it all happening.

She will trigger it eventually but probably later than March. It will be a huge clusterfuck and nothing will be sorted by the end of the two years. Trump's USA will be anti-free trade so it will be difficult to get any trade deals at good rates, so we'll all be older and we'll all be poorer.

She needs to. The majority have spoken and it needs to happen

I truly hope that the Article 50 "button of no return" is never pressed!

I am trying to save for retirement and I shudder to think what effect the triggering of Article 50 will have on my (and indeed on everybody's) pension fund! I have a horrible feeling that the last few years of scrimping and saving might be wiped out.

YABU not to post this in EU referendum section when you know full well it's there and it's just another goady remoaner thread

ODFOD accusing me of being goady about such an important topic. And "remoaner" - how witty and original

We're less than 3 months away from the date May has said she'll trigger A50 but I can't help thinking there's a good chance she won't. And I agree that it might be a good idea to wait and see what the French and German elections bring.

It's interesting that all the Remain voters I speak to froth and lament against 'ignorant' or 'racist' Leavers. The Remainers are smug in their position as the righteous, liberal, left-of-centre, intelligent faction.

Yet when you actually speak to them it's all about their pensions, their money, their short term losses, their businesses.

I voted Leave as a staunch leftie - among other reasons, I voted to a) get out of the failed experiment of the insidious one-size-fits-all EU, one that we never voted for in the first place (we only voted to be trade partners, not part of a political bloc) and b) to stop businesses using EU immigrants as cheap labour c) to give the people who are genuinely worried about immigration numbers the right to vote on that in every GE, dependant on what each party pledges for that period.

I know some of us will be hit in the pocket. I accept that. I do also accept that that is worrying to some people and I'm not dismissing those concerns.

I am genuinely interested in the staunch leftie leave voter. My brother was one too.

I am interested in why the staunch leftie leave voter is happy to open the door to the ultra right, give opportunity to rascists and xenphobes and, to nudge our parliamentary politics even further to the right than they are now, because that was the outcome of the referendum like it or not.

There is also the issue of security. The staunch leftie leave voter appears to be unconcerned that the EU has protected and promoted peace in Europe since its inception a and for the better part of 70 years.

Neither does the staunch leftie leave voter care that UK science and U.K. Universities will be damaged by not being part of the EU project.

Or the undoubted short to medium term damage to the economy.

Or the protection to workers the EU affords (just watch as many of the rights we have taken for granted are swept away by corporate interests).

Surely the EU is the lesser of two evils when all of the above is take into account? I would ask my brother these questions but the referendum is not a happy topic in my family as in many others.

Finally, the poster who suggests that remainders are only concerned about THEIR money, THEIR pensions etc. Not true. I am aggrieved at the loss of EU citizenship specially for my children's generation., and scared that we will not be a liberal, tolerant and outward looking country in the future. I am remaining in all of our behalfs not just my own!