To believe that Theresa May will not trigger A50 this year?

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Yes, I know there is an EU referendum topic hidden away on MN but this is a genuine AIBU.

Anyone else think she won't be stupid enough to trigger Article 50 in 2017?

Weren't mostly regions with the lowest migration rates that voted for Brexit?

Yes agree

In response to the original question- i very much doubt it will be triggered in March. But lets see what the court case brings. That will buy the time.

Still cannot believe this is where we are, and with Trump on the other side of the atlantic...

Im an Anglo Yank Remoaner and proud of it.

Caprianna

Again for you its a non issue and that postive but for me were I live it's a real issue

Either you think I am lying a rasict or sould just stop moaning and know my place

Sadly Caprianna this is a typical left middle class response it's not a issue for ME so why are you moaning and that's why jc will never win back the working class harlands and the far right will rise in Europe beyound our worst nightmares

You just don't think it's a real issue and that's fine but everyone else is learning via the ballot box it is

In the 1980's the Tories embarked on mass privitisation and the dismantling of industry. This created unemployment and a widening gap between rich and poor. Council houses were sold off and never replaced. The working class, particularly in the north suffered the most.

30 years later the result of such neo liberal dogma manifests itself in low wages, lack of job security, poor pay, expensive utilities, curtailed union rights and worker rights. An affordable house is considered 250k. Private tenants can be kicked out with 2 months notice. The use of food banks are at record levels. Even higher education has been "commodified"

This is a Britain of its own making. By all means blame the EU but you are misguided and if you think the Tories will shower money on "forgotten" communities" after Brexit you will be disappointed.

There is far more integration and relationships between working class people and immigrants than mc and uc

I'd like to see evidence of this. Plenty of migrants work in academia, health care, science, engineering.

Yes we skipped from the 80s until now

How convinent you missed out the labour years when mass immragtion was policey and Harley any coucil homes were built they had there chance to reserve any issues they wanted rid of

It was them who brought in tution fees it was them who marched on with ever closer union it was labour who invited thousands with out thought of how that would effect the nature of uk

It was labour who shout the working classes down anytime they dare to question there lot

of course there are immigrants working in those areas no one said here isn't but you only have to take London as an example mc areas there are far less ethnic minorities

Look at middle class state schools in London it was certainly surprising to me how white they are compared to the ones that are not in such good catchment areas as it's a reflection on who live in the often very small catchment areas

I can think of a number of families including my own that are from mixed ethnic backgrounds very few are mc

Oh and I don't think the Tories will shower the working class with money

It's simply this for me

If you have to self support if your not born here weather you be black white or brown then there is less pressure on services

there are so many houses so may school places and so many doctors

You are blaming the EU and immigration for our internal problems which have been largely caused by austerity. Voting for Brexit is unfortunately voting for even more of the same. I do think that unfortunately it will be the poorest in our society who will be hardest hit when tax revenues fall as there will be less money for benefits and the NHS. I agree that pensions will be hit - the state one - but those fortunate enough to have private pensions will probably be ok. The rich elite will get richer and the poor will get poorer .

We have been living under the spectre of neo liberalism since the 80's so Tory and New Labour.

I'm assuming people in areas of low immigration have an abundance of council houses and low skilled jobs that are well paid? Oh wait they don't do they?

User I was pointing out that class sizes are hugh also in areas with no immigration. I don't have an issue with big class sizes but expect the teachers do but Brexit won't give you smaller class sizes. It is not a population crisis with too many children in the UK, but with too many old people. We need more children not less!

The Tories have been dismantling public services since the 80's. Its ideological.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed Fri 06-Jan-17 22:23:07
of course there are immigrants working in those areas no one said here isn't but you only have to take London as an example mc areas there are far less ethnic minorities

Look at middle class state schools in London it was certainly surprising to me how white they are compared to the ones that are not in such good catchment areas as it's a reflection on who live in the often very small catchment areas

I can think of a number of families including my own that are from mixed ethnic backgrounds very few are mc
this often people who who are middle class and live in London live in the very whitest part like our lovey James o Brian who lives in Chiswick it's the whitest part of Hammersmith and Fulham were house start from 800k he dosent lI've in the coucil estates in white city were the immigrants live it's easy to tell eveyone how awsome immigration is when you can either afford to buy your way out of it if it gets to much of simply don't have to deal with the effects there EU utopia beings

Whereever you live in London you are never far from a council estate to be honest.

| GhostofFrankGrimes Fri 06-Jan-17 22:28:23
The Tories have been dismantling public services since the 80's. Its ideological.

Thanks for that thought it was labour who started off pay to play at uni 😕
Thought it was labour who started off NHS choice pick a hospital any hospital private or public

Thought it was labour who lectured the poor on the evils of private and grammer education while shuffling there own children of to them

Must of got that wrong

Nice straw man there user. Some migrants live in poorer areas some in wealthier areas. Just like British people.

Being far from one and living in one are two different things if you lived in one you wouldn't even have made that stament

It's like two Diffrent worlds

Thought it was labour who started off NHS choice pick a hospital any hospital private or public

Thought it was labour who lectured the poor on the evils of private and grammer education while shuffling there own children of to them

You've tied yourself up in knots here, defeating your own argument. The ills you speak of are the result of domestic policy not the EU

user I'm working class, I grew up in a council house. I voted remain.

If schools are full, why not build new schools? The private sector seems to be able to manage this, why not the public sector? If a hospital has a long waiting list, why not enlarge it? Or build new council housing? The fact that people in need can't get social housing isn't the fault of immigrants who arrived in the UK looking for work, it's the fault of public officials for not allocating the cash.

Well I let the left keep th blinkers on

How that working out for you keep telling the working class that want there actually living isn't true and that you as the educated middle class no better

Whilest they lecture from there million pound homes London and alike tell me in my coucil easte it's all lies and there is no pressure from immragtion it's all just a dream 🙁

there there little prole let me tell you about the life your living your just to uneducated to understand what's really going on

Oh no having to live near to a council estate the thought

Yes but we were talking about schools. My children go to school with children from the nearest council estate and children from 800k houses.

Yes and until we sort those put not very wise to invite thousands upon thousands more people over

If this dismantling of the services is really under way as you say then having more people hear is a madness