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To believe that Theresa May will not trigger A50 this year?

204 replies

NobodyputsBabyinaKorma · 03/01/2017 21:22

Yes, I know there is an EU referendum topic hidden away on MN but this is a genuine AIBU.

Anyone else think she won't be stupid enough to trigger Article 50 in 2017?

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GhostofFrankGrimes · 06/01/2017 22:45

I imagine problems caused in your local area are due to local authorities having their budgets slashed.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 06/01/2017 22:45

I am not sure anyone has actually said it's the fault of immigrants

Rather it's policy makers those who thought it was best to have a market of cheap labour regardless of the impact on those that are on the lowest wages

EngTech · 06/01/2017 22:48

If she does not trigger Article 50, IMHO, it means that it is pointless voting for anything as the Government, who work for the people, don't listen.

Also the people who voted leave, will put a tick in the box, that will punish her come the GE

Then again, come the GE, everything will be hunky dory as JC will sort it all out by the first weekend he is in power.

Hmm, I noticed the pigs were doing pre flight checks 😀😂

user1483046088 · 06/01/2017 22:51

| GhostofFrankGrimes Fri 06-Jan-17 22:45:41
Agreed so when your having a party you invite the amount of people you can cater for

Whatever the twants give you as a budget you don't carry on with your plan to invite 100 when you only have a budget for 20 and that is the crux

The budget is shit the person who gave you the budget is a twant but that is the budget the party will be shit a your guest distrusted because you wanted 100 regardless of your budget that could only cater for 20

This is what going on here you don't think people think the Tories are shit they don't have the answer to the problem but labour don't even this there is a peoblem

user1483046088 · 06/01/2017 22:53

The working class are done being told

Problem what problem

We know there is a issue and the middle class can no longer convince us otherwise

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 06/01/2017 22:53

that's good but once a school starts getting good results property starts to rise siblings go to the school catchment areas get smaller and it becomes over prescribed

Now if the school is right by a council estate that will work well for all it's it's as little as a few roads away but surrounded by 800k properties those children will take priority simply becuase they live closer

Motheroffourdragons · 06/01/2017 22:55

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Lweji · 06/01/2017 22:58

Whatever the twants give you as a budget you don't carry on with your plan to invite 100 when you only have a budget for 20 and that is the crux

It's not as simple as that.
Thr situation with migration is more a case of every guest bringing their bit to the party and helping with the catering too.
If anything you may eventually run out of space or tables.

user1483046088 · 06/01/2017 23:00

No it's the failure of the and the elite political class to solider on with there eu dream with out consulting the people

They have overreached if eveyone iS co confident that this is what the people want and eveyone is loving the eu dream why are so many govermnets so nervy about giving the people the choice

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 06/01/2017 23:02

I didn't vote leave

But the rise of the right is partly to do with how EU policies have been implemented while the rise of the far right has been dangerously ignored

Labour ignored voters concerns about immigration and lost voters to UKIP the same has happened in France, Austria and Germany (with parties that are more righht wing than UKIP) The rhetoric of right wing parties of ten years ago has become mainstream for all parties now

Caprianna · 06/01/2017 23:04

User, if sectors of the UK currently doing well like banking are destroyed then this country will lose a lot of revenue so I don't think that will benefit the poor at all. I am guessing there is not much FX trading going on at the council estates around the country so what's the backup plan?

Motheroffourdragons · 06/01/2017 23:04

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GhostofFrankGrimes · 06/01/2017 23:05

We know there is a issue and the middle class can no longer convince us otherwise

This isn't class war. The middles classes include teachers, social workers etc - ordinary people contributing to our society. The people peddling the ills of the EU are wealthy folk like Johnson, Gove and Farage. Reckon they spend much time on council estates?

user1483046088 · 06/01/2017 23:05

| Lweji Fri 06-Jan-17 22:58:20
Whatever the twants give you as a budget you don't carry on with your plan to invite 100 when you only have a budget for 20 and that is the crux

It's not as simple as that.
Thr situation with migration is more a case of every guest bringing their bit to the party and helping with the catering too.
If anything you may eventually run out of space or tables.

Down here that is not that case when your waiting 11 years to be housed doesn't feel like it

When the local schools are using pota cabins to teach our children because of the growth in population driven by immragtion dosent feel like it

Motheroffourdragons · 06/01/2017 23:06

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Caprianna · 06/01/2017 23:07

Mother is right. Other European countries are looking at the UK mith a mixture of horror and bemusement. Its suicide basically.

user1483046088 · 06/01/2017 23:07

Sadly it is all just spin. That is what they want you to believe, and sadly lots of people have been drawn in hook, line and sinker.

Like I said you clearly all know more about were I live than me I live it every bloody day but yes it's just spin

she give up goes back home were there are no issues its all a dream

Lweji · 06/01/2017 23:08

What if voters are concerned about immigration because they perceive it as a much bigger problem than it is?
Because some political groups have been shifting blame and of other in.

If voters were concerned about the Sun exploding should the government also make a policy for addressing that issue, to cater for the voters' fears? Or should they try to clarify to those voters what the reality is? You will never get a government in power admitting to fault, though. They will always find a scapegoat.

Mrsmadevans · 06/01/2017 23:08

Whats the A50

GhostofFrankGrimes · 06/01/2017 23:09

Down here that is not that case when your waiting 11 years to be housed doesn't feel like it

You've already been told that shortages of council houses are due to the mass sell off and failure to replace them.

WrongTrouser · 06/01/2017 23:10

So are the leavers really complaining that the rise of the far right in Europe is the fault of the EU ?

Motheroffourdragons

What do you think are the reasons behind the rise of the far right?

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user1483046088 · 06/01/2017 23:10

I don't care why the other EU counties think I need to take care of my children futher if I was worried about being with the in crowd I would of voted in

And to say they all love the eu is over egging the pudding hence why no other government would dare give a vote because they know they would loose if Holland said so confident he would win and the French think we're mad roll the dice 🙄

Lweji · 06/01/2017 23:11

When the local schools are using pota cabins to teach our children because of the growth in population driven by immragtion dosent feel like it

Or because their taxes are being used elsewhere or failed to monitor and plan the population growth.
The same will happen when people migrate within the same country to desirable areas.

user1483046088 · 06/01/2017 23:12

| GhostofFrankGrimes Fri 06-Jan-17 23:09:19
Down here that is not that case when your waiting 11 years to be housed doesn't feel like it

You've already been told that shortages of council houses are due to the mass sell off and failure to replace them.

and you have already been told you don't then add 100s of people to an area who will also need housing