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AIBU?

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Bedroom Situation- Help me!

210 replies

NameChangeyy · 23/10/2016 01:49

Name changed as this could be quite identifying... Would appreciate thoughts on WIBU, and if it's me, please help me see some reason/ perspective... This could be long!

Background: I have 2 DDs (3,8) and DP has 1 DS (8). We've been together since my second DD was very little (5m). Kids get on well for the most part, bar some minor issues/ differences with the eldest two, but nothing out of the ordinary. I own a two bed house and he owns a one bed flat.

We are now at the stage where we are starting to think about buying somewhere together. I have some equity in the house and am in a position to save around £1k a month towards a deposit. DP does have money in flat, but I reckon it will struggle to sell, so renting it out may be an option. He saves around £200pm but this covers birthdays, xmas, holidays, emergencies etc.

And so here is the dilemma, 3 bedroom or 4 bedroom?

And here is my AIBU: I think it is perfectly practical and sensible to not overstretch ourselves, and buy a nice 3 bedroomed house in a reasonable area with affordable payments and enough of a buffer to still be able to save money each month. 90% of the 4 bedrooms close enough to be near my family wraparound childcare (out of house for 12hrs a day, nursery only 10hrs) would be top end of budget, new-builds with small rooms. DP is absolutely adamant that DS needs his own bedroom.

Fine, I say. We'll look at older larger 3 beds and the girls can continue sharing for the medium term. Because of the 5 year age gap, I don't think it's really fair to make a 14yo share with a 9yo sibling when there is a bedroom sitting empty for 6 nights of the week? He says he will not have his son feeling pushed out of his own home.

I understand where he is coming from, I do. Hence why I would have DDs share so he has his own space while they are all still young. But from my point of view, DS already has a main home with his DM, who is still in the marital home (big 4 bed, lovely area). I am responsible for providing the main home for the girls. DDs dad lives with his mother so they have their dads room when they stay once a week and he sleeps on the sofa. I also feel like reminding him that while our finances are still separate, he is contributing to £200 pm DS's main home, while the girls father is contributing £400pm to their main home- although I accept maybe IABU with that point.

So DP wants DS to have own room and playroom at his mums, and own room at ours.. While DDs share room at ours, and don't have a room at their dads.

I just don't think it sounds fair at all and I'm starting to doubt the whole thing and wether or not this will even work.. It goes without saying I love DP, and care about DS but this just feels like the tip of the special snowflake iceberg. I always feel like there are too many times we are all tiptoeing around DS because he doesn't get to spend as much time with his dad as the girls do. If he's here at the weekend it goes without saying we go where he wants to go, if he doesn't want to watch a film we don't watch it. We went on holiday, DS only likes 3 different foods (I'm not kidding) so all of us could only ever go to places that definitely did those foods. He won't eat ice cream so had to say no when DD asked to go to ice cream place. If it was my kids I'd be saying well DD, we're having X and I'd like it if you tried some. If you don't want X thats fine, we'll get you something before/ after but everyone else likes X so that's what we're having. I've since found out its a lot of rubbish and DS will eat most foods, he just prefers for example McDonalds chicken nuggets than having say a normal restaurant kids meal. But I don't blame the wee sod when his dad is putting up with it, and fighting his corner in front of him if I dare to ever question it.

As I said, we all get on really well for the most part but I can't help feeling a bit resentful that while DP is trying to make sure his son isn't getting a raw deal, its going to end up that the girls are. My thoughts are they can share until oldest hits teens and they stop having toys littering the room.. Then girls get their own rooms and for the 1 night DS is here (when he is a teenager, will he even want to come?!!) DDs bunk in with each other and DS sleeps in DDs room. We have really neutral decor anyway, their room is white just now with teal bedding and its the way we all like it. The DDs will be fully aware that its DS home at the weekend too and he gets his own space when he's here.

The only other option is a 4 bed, which I'm really not keen on and will take at least another year of saving :-( as well as much tigher budget, more to clean (we both work long hours full time as it is and I frequently bring work home!) please tell me if IABU??

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OzzieFem · 24/10/2016 06:20

OP He is here in our two bed more than he is in his flat, so he's keeping it going just so him and DS have a base at the weekend. Which is expensive for the 2 nights a week he is there.

Son refuses to use a camp bed so you give up your bed to the DP and his son.

When your DP is staying at your place does he contribute in any way? Financially if staying more than the one overnight, contributing to the household tasks? Do you do his washing and ironing?

If you do then he has got you well trained already, and I can see why he thought you would be a pushover to get what he wanted for himself and his son. He must also know that if you do go down the route of buying a four bedroom house then this will mean (as you have already stated) you will move away from your families support. Perhaps this is another sneaky move on his part to make you more emotionally dependent on him than you already seem to be. FGS don't do it.

Socksey · 24/10/2016 07:36

And remember. ... especially if finances are stretched to factor in the extra 3% stamp duty you will have to pay if he doesn't sell his flat within 18months (if you buy together).... you'd have to pay it and then claim it back if the sales don't happen before the new purchase.... that means cash in hand...

JoJoSM2 · 24/10/2016 09:00

Some of the comments seem a bit one-sided to me... It sounds to me that your DP is at yours most of the time and both of you would like to get a house together. It sounds like your DP also hopes that his son will be over a lot more and would very much like for that to happen. Therefore, his number one priority is that extra bedroom for his son. IMO, if you're together then you're together and should have a joint account and perceive your income as such even if DP is a low earner. What's the point of him buying a house together, paying a share the mortgage if what he gets is half a bed and no room for his son??? Frankly, it wouldn't be that much of an improvement on the current situation (for him anyway, as it would be much nicer for your daughters to have own bedrooms).

Having said that, there is the issue of parenting. If drives you mad as it is, one night a week. Imagine if DP manages to have his son more often - it'd drive you even more insane.

You have also brought up finances and I sense that you might not be all that comfortable with being the main earner but treating your DP equally if your relationship progresses.

Overall, I think you should seriously consider if moving in is for you. I do know a couple who were in a similar situation and just carried on as they were and are still together years later. Not living together gave them that space and control of finances and parenting whilst allowing to spend lovely time together and enjoy each other's company.

Cumberland · 24/10/2016 09:06

Don't do it OP.

Dontyouknow2016 · 24/10/2016 09:10

I am shocked that you give up your bed so your partner and his son can sleep comfortably! More really that he allows it. Why don't they go to his place? Sorry I wouldn't do that even once unless it's an ill child or something.

ChuckBiscuits · 24/10/2016 09:14

He said if it was the other way around, and I'd said I needed a room for my 1 child who stays once a week that would be top of his priority list.

This is bullshit as he doesn't even provide one at his own place.

Dontyouknow2016 · 24/10/2016 09:16

And the example of his parents keeping a room each for him and his sister is laughable Confused.

Sadsnake · 24/10/2016 09:30

I don't see you and yr daughters gaining anything by moving in with him I see years down the line when you are sorting out your wills and he expects his son to get half of the house and yr dds the other half( yes it happened to my relatives)..he clearly priorities his son over yr daughters...my advice would be keep him as a boyfriend ,if you must,but don't move a man in to your daughters home as a step dad ,who won't cherish and love them as his own..putting his son first isn't loving your girls as his own

Sadsnake · 24/10/2016 09:35

Ijustlostthegame.oh my fucking god...thats rediculous that your husband allows that ..wow.

Kidnapped · 24/10/2016 10:10

IJustLostTheGame,

Your DSD has had the biggest room for 5 years. It is only fair that your own DD gets the room for the next 5 years. And then DSD can get it back when she is 21 for the next 5 years after that if she still needs a room at her fathers.

Anything else is very unfair on your daughter. Get your DH on board, set a budget for your DSD to decorate the box room to make it hers and involve her in planning and painting. At 16, she will probably want a more grown-up room. If she doesn't want to know, then that is a shame. But do it out nicely anyway, decorated to her tastes. And let her know that it will always be there for her. Don't throw out any of her stuff without her knowledge, just transfer it over to the other room if she doesn't want to do it herself.

You and DH need to prepare her for the adult world. Taking turns and being fair to others is a good lesson for her. Even if, at 16, she probably won't see it that way.

If she doesn't want to stay over again then see if you can start meeting her during the day instead sometimes for lunch, shopping, cinema, that kind of thing. Include the boyfriend sometimes. Try to move the relationship on from the child/adult dynamic onto a more equal footing which is probably what she wants at her age anyway. Easier said than done, I know.

Mummyoflittledragon · 24/10/2016 11:59

IJustLost

I agree with pps. Time to give your dd the bigger bedroom justifying that she will need more space as she is getting older, needs a desk, friends round etc.

Superfly

I get that her dps ds has his own room in his mother's house. My observation is that if it is so important for his dad to have a bedroom for his ds, maybe he should move back in with his parents or stay with his parents when his son is around then there'd be two bedrooms, one each. He shouldn't be relying on op to provide his ds with a room and insinuating she's selfish if it's not within her means.

Sadsnake · 24/10/2016 13:33

I'm on page 6.... reading throu.im fuming on yr dd behalf.why are you giving up your bed for ds....buy a put me up from argos.put him in the lounge on that...that's what I had when having a sleepover at my dads.i turned out just fine....I also never had a room when staying at my dads every weekend...why would I? I was only there 2 nights a week...this whole thread is madness...you are giving away your freedom to your home,your weekends,your holidays your desserts..why?????

Sadsnake · 24/10/2016 13:36

Fuck me,you said...he won't sleep in a camp bed.....yet you take the sofa.and give up your bed....oh my fucking god...where is your self respect..and worse your lovely partner is putting you last.

SuperFlyHigh · 24/10/2016 14:19

Mummy I'm guessing that OP's DP values his independence more than he values living back with his parents so his son gains a bedroom of his own...

plus OP's DP has been bankrolled it'd appear by his FIL which obviously was a bad move!

HouseworkIsASin10 · 24/10/2016 14:24

Sorry if I've missed this but who pays all the expenses at your house, food heating etc? As he is staying there most of the time.

NameChangeyy · 24/10/2016 15:25

Sorry I've just name changed back, lots of questions so will try to answer...

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NameChangeyy · 24/10/2016 15:30

I pay all the expenses for my house currently. Its only been say 6m or so he has been staying here most nights and does his washing etc in his own house still. I imagine if he moves in here properly we will have an equal split.

The earning discrepancy doesn't really bother me too much tbh, and will probably get worse with time in as much that he has a job while I have a decent career with a path to top level management. The bit that bugs me is he doesn't see that regardless of what we both bring into the home through earnings (which I don't mind, we both work hard)... Household funds are always going to be diverted away for his DS while they are coming in for my DDs. Which is the way it should be!! But it is that way because- I recieve help for providing a home for mines, will he provides help for his mother to do the same.

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NameChangeyy · 24/10/2016 15:31

*while he provides help

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SuperFlyHigh · 24/10/2016 15:33

You've obviously been together for 2 and a half years OP so there is that to take into consideration.

wait he provides help for his mother to do the same? is this for HIS mother? and if so why is he providing financial help? or is it for the mother of his DS which would make more sense?

NameChangeyy · 24/10/2016 15:39

I'm at work but just wanted to again say thank you for all the wonderful advice it has really made me evaluate the relationship and where I want to see my life heading.

Maybe I do need to be more selfish! God knows I've worked hard for it.. And PPs are spot on, his previous lifestyle was undoubtedly propped up by his FIL and it has always been a worry that he has become accustomed to this standard of living.

I grew up on a council estate with 3 generations crammed into a 2 bed semi- that has always been my fuel for staying up late studying while friends were partying, knowing that I'd give my daughters the best possible life. I feel empowered tbh, and I'm remembering I did it all for them, not for a DS who to be honest while I like him, he is spoiled and bratty and babied- and the complete opposite of everything i value so highly in my girls.

I sleep on the sofa because my mantra has always been to "make do" so others don't go without. I need to stop this. We're comfortable and can be more so in a year or two when I've saved for the house I want to buy in the area I want to live.

Again, thank you for taking the time to respond. Truly means alot, mumsnet at its best.

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NameChangeyy · 24/10/2016 15:40

Super DS mum recieves CM is what I meant, which of course she should.

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badtime · 24/10/2016 15:48

I imagine if he moves in here properly we will have an equal split.

I think you must have a good imagination, OP.

SuperFlyHigh · 24/10/2016 15:55

oh I thought that was what you meant OP, and of course he should do that.

I think this thread has given you food for thought but please don't let your DP's previous indulgences by his FIL etc encroach or belittle or anything else your DP says take anything you yourself have worked hard for. No way on earth should you be sleeping on a sofa bed and I think (but you know this) you need to change things there!

my single (divorced) mum was like this by the way, studied for A levels then did teacher training college when I was 5 and my brother 3. to better herself.

tofutti · 24/10/2016 16:37

Buy new house in your name OP. Safeguard your daughters' future.

YelloDraw · 24/10/2016 16:43

I don't think that you can 'blend' unless you are prepared to completely subsidise DP and DSS.

Most women on MN seem to expect to be subsidised by their higher earning DPs... so you might be happy to do the converse, but I wouldn't be.

You have unequal equity and unequal earning power. How much does he expect to contribute to the mortgage and bills? How much household work does he see himself doing? Would he put a wash on of your kids clothes? Make tea for them? Pick them up from rainbows whilst you're late at work? Or will you do everything for your girls (and probably for his son as well...)