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Bedroom Situation- Help me!

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NameChangeyy · 23/10/2016 01:49

Name changed as this could be quite identifying... Would appreciate thoughts on WIBU, and if it's me, please help me see some reason/ perspective... This could be long!

Background: I have 2 DDs (3,8) and DP has 1 DS (8). We've been together since my second DD was very little (5m). Kids get on well for the most part, bar some minor issues/ differences with the eldest two, but nothing out of the ordinary. I own a two bed house and he owns a one bed flat.

We are now at the stage where we are starting to think about buying somewhere together. I have some equity in the house and am in a position to save around £1k a month towards a deposit. DP does have money in flat, but I reckon it will struggle to sell, so renting it out may be an option. He saves around £200pm but this covers birthdays, xmas, holidays, emergencies etc.

And so here is the dilemma, 3 bedroom or 4 bedroom?

And here is my AIBU: I think it is perfectly practical and sensible to not overstretch ourselves, and buy a nice 3 bedroomed house in a reasonable area with affordable payments and enough of a buffer to still be able to save money each month. 90% of the 4 bedrooms close enough to be near my family wraparound childcare (out of house for 12hrs a day, nursery only 10hrs) would be top end of budget, new-builds with small rooms. DP is absolutely adamant that DS needs his own bedroom.

Fine, I say. We'll look at older larger 3 beds and the girls can continue sharing for the medium term. Because of the 5 year age gap, I don't think it's really fair to make a 14yo share with a 9yo sibling when there is a bedroom sitting empty for 6 nights of the week? He says he will not have his son feeling pushed out of his own home.

I understand where he is coming from, I do. Hence why I would have DDs share so he has his own space while they are all still young. But from my point of view, DS already has a main home with his DM, who is still in the marital home (big 4 bed, lovely area). I am responsible for providing the main home for the girls. DDs dad lives with his mother so they have their dads room when they stay once a week and he sleeps on the sofa. I also feel like reminding him that while our finances are still separate, he is contributing to £200 pm DS's main home, while the girls father is contributing £400pm to their main home- although I accept maybe IABU with that point.

So DP wants DS to have own room and playroom at his mums, and own room at ours.. While DDs share room at ours, and don't have a room at their dads.

I just don't think it sounds fair at all and I'm starting to doubt the whole thing and wether or not this will even work.. It goes without saying I love DP, and care about DS but this just feels like the tip of the special snowflake iceberg. I always feel like there are too many times we are all tiptoeing around DS because he doesn't get to spend as much time with his dad as the girls do. If he's here at the weekend it goes without saying we go where he wants to go, if he doesn't want to watch a film we don't watch it. We went on holiday, DS only likes 3 different foods (I'm not kidding) so all of us could only ever go to places that definitely did those foods. He won't eat ice cream so had to say no when DD asked to go to ice cream place. If it was my kids I'd be saying well DD, we're having X and I'd like it if you tried some. If you don't want X thats fine, we'll get you something before/ after but everyone else likes X so that's what we're having. I've since found out its a lot of rubbish and DS will eat most foods, he just prefers for example McDonalds chicken nuggets than having say a normal restaurant kids meal. But I don't blame the wee sod when his dad is putting up with it, and fighting his corner in front of him if I dare to ever question it.

As I said, we all get on really well for the most part but I can't help feeling a bit resentful that while DP is trying to make sure his son isn't getting a raw deal, its going to end up that the girls are. My thoughts are they can share until oldest hits teens and they stop having toys littering the room.. Then girls get their own rooms and for the 1 night DS is here (when he is a teenager, will he even want to come?!!) DDs bunk in with each other and DS sleeps in DDs room. We have really neutral decor anyway, their room is white just now with teal bedding and its the way we all like it. The DDs will be fully aware that its DS home at the weekend too and he gets his own space when he's here.

The only other option is a 4 bed, which I'm really not keen on and will take at least another year of saving :-( as well as much tigher budget, more to clean (we both work long hours full time as it is and I frequently bring work home!) please tell me if IABU??

OP posts:
Crunchymum · 23/10/2016 08:32

Can you not go for a 4 bed and use the DS room as a play room / dressing room but have his stuff in there too? So it's not a wasted room?

I'd rent for a while though, it sounds like there is going to be a lot to get to grips with.

junebirthdaygirl · 23/10/2016 08:37

I think, aside from all that has been said already that it's interesting that his fil paid for most of his first home and now he is expecting you to pay for most of his second one. He sounds a bit spoilt himself

Only1scoop · 23/10/2016 08:40

June
There is certainly truth in that.

Adnerb95 · 23/10/2016 08:42

If you are going for 4-bed, remember it can be much cheaper to buy a 3-bed which has a bedroom large enough to divide into 2 (an easy, cheap job) than to buy one which already has 4 beds. Just a thought.

YANBU though in your concerns about DP pandering to DS (food, room, in general) and this needs addressing if the arrangement is going to work in the longer term.

MyGiddyUncle · 23/10/2016 08:43

I don't think dss sleeping in your dd's bedroom will work long term.

If they were both boys, maybe - but as a teenage girl, I would have been horrified to have a teenage boy invading my space once a week/having access to all my stuff. He might feel equally uncomfortable.

Vixxfacee · 23/10/2016 08:44

If your girls will have have to share still if you buy a bigger house then you may as well just stay where you are.

Inertia · 23/10/2016 08:48

I think you would be crazy to move in with him.

Between you, you and your partner are teaching your children that women and girls provide and pander to the demands and whims of the boys and men. The house issue is just a symbol of the acquiescence of the females, which is the pattern of the whole relationship.

SuperFlyHigh · 23/10/2016 08:49

Your DP is getting a very good deal out of this all round esp financially is all I have to say. See a solicitor to safeguard your equity in the house in some way.

I'd do as Adner says and try to split one of the bedrooms into two, or save for another year for a 4 bedroom. But then again I'd also rent for a year.

And no way would I give into special snowflake and Disney dad, his son is being sent all sorts of messages which will as others say only breed resentment down the line. Little brat!

YetAnotherSpartacus · 23/10/2016 08:49

What compromises do DP and DS make for you and your DDs? When are your / their needs put first by DP and DS?

happypoobum · 23/10/2016 08:49

I think, aside from all that has been said already that it's interesting that his fil paid for most of his first home and now he is expecting you to pay for most of his second one. He sounds a bit spoilt himself

Exactly! The more you post OP, the more I can't imagine why you want to live with this man? Honestly, what's in it for you?

I can easily see what's in it for him. He has a 1 bed flat with little equity, earns less than you, and struggles with parenting.

Would it not be better for you, and in particular for your DDs, to just leave things as they are? You can keep saving money and move to a 3 bed just the three of you? Use it for uni fees/early retirement/amazing holidays/cars for DDs?

I am really struggling to see why you would want to live with him?

SuperFlyHigh · 23/10/2016 08:50

Not to say I don't feel for your partner's son having to share and his mum and dad splitting up. If he is young for his age, well I'd say he has to buck his ideas up, grow up a bit and think of others before you even think of moving in with DP!

MyGiddyUncle · 23/10/2016 08:51

Could you look for a three bedroom with a snug downstairs which could have a sofa bed and double as a bedroom for him when he needs it?

OR, look at a partial attic conversion on a three bed? We have a partial conversion which is used as a study - we could never officially sell our house with it advertised as a bedroom as the minimum ceiling height isn't there at the entrance and it's not double boarded etc - but it's still a perfectly nice and functional room.

Our partial conversion cost peanuts (compared to a full conversion) - about £300 to put in 2 windows, £300 to get it boarded and plastered, £100 for the (nice,, thicker steps) ladder...and then it was just the standard cost of decorating, paint and carpet.

SuperFlyHigh · 23/10/2016 08:52

happy must have skipped over the part where FIL paid for DP's house...

Well that's all very easy for him isn't it? Presume ex wife has got the house or the vast majority of equity in it?

OliviaStabler · 23/10/2016 08:52

ILoveAutumnLeaves and June are completely right and have hit the nail on the head.

tootiredtothink · 23/10/2016 08:52

Sorry, I disagree. Yabu about bedrooms. Of course his ds should have a room when you're buying the house together. It doesn't matter that he's only there for a night at the moment, hopefully that will increase.

I don't think you should move in together though. You're both obviously not ready to blend the family together. He of course is going to want to watch his son play sports, and rightly so. whilst I don't blame you for not wanting to do it every weekend, your dds will also have their activities to do. Or are they at their dads ?

I think until you've sorted out his Disney dad attitude (not being able to go for ice cream is ridiculous) I would move forward.

Equally, in his shoes, I would want to move in with someone who didn't think my child deserves a room of his own as much as yours do.

SuperFlyHigh · 23/10/2016 08:54

Also if DP has money in the flat but it will struggle to sell, then surely the rent he gets from the flat can help towards funding a larger house with bedroom for his son??!!

BIWI · 23/10/2016 08:59

I'm afraid that the MN term 'cocklodger' came into my mind reading through all of your posts Sad

He's expecting - or if not expecting, certainly allowing - you to make most of the financial contribution towards this new house, yet also assuming that he can make demands about it.

If you buy this house together, it will no longer be yours - which is what you have now.

And if you move your families in together, you (and your girls) will be at his beck and call, pretty much. Already it sounds like you're spending a lot of your time walking on eggshells around your 'D'P and his son.

You're also enabling his behaviour by being 'patient' and 'fair'. Also, all the agonising you're doing over what's going to work best for your blended families - I doubt very much he's doing the same.

I say none of this to be mean, and I can see it must be a really difficult situation. But all I can see if you go ahead with this one, is that you're the one who will lose out - and your girls are potentially going to find themselves in a position in their own home where they are regarded as lesser members of the family.

And you're throwing away your financial independence for a man who doesn't appear to have achieved his own independence, but wants (expects?) it to be provided by other people.

You are a much better role model for your children than he ever will be. No matter how lovely he might be or how much fun you might all have when you're together.

Don't do it. Or at least, seek out some professional counselling first, to help you articulate your concerns. When you talked about having to 'come out' to be able to talk to your partner, this was a massive alarm bell for me - and it suggests that a lot of this debate has been, for you, internal rather than very well externalised. (I do this - I have the whole argument in my head, and then come up with a weak, compromised position before I've even articulated my thoughts or arguments with the other person!)

ChuckBiscuits · 23/10/2016 09:00

So off he went in search of it, in the interest of fairness I made sure they all sat waiting patiently with a drink before we ordered ice cream.

How is this fair to your daughters to wait until the males are sorted before they are allowed to order? Goodness me.

MyGiddyUncle · 23/10/2016 09:00

I would want to move in with someone who didn't think my child deserves a room of his own as much as yours do

But there is a massive difference - this house will not be his main residence - no where near.

What if, hypothetically, dh had four kids with his ex - a massive mix of ages and sexes from baby to teen. Should they only be looking for a seven bed house so that each child has their own room?

Justjoseph · 23/10/2016 09:05

Just buy a nice little 3 bed house of your own op. He can move in and contribute if he likes and his son is always welcome to stay on a put up bed.

Too many risks imho. Also think cocklodger.

zad716 · 23/10/2016 09:10

The fact DP's DS doesn't have a room at DP's flat is irrelevant as its just Dad's flat. The fact that he doesn't have a room at Dad's new family home would be very relevant as it will never be his home and he will always feel like an outsider when visiting/staying. Borrowing a bedroom is not the same.

Andbabymakesthree · 23/10/2016 09:13

Don't forget your girls come from split parents so all this poor little mite having allowances because parents split up just isn't on.

We've had similar in the past. We also have a child together. This did pull us all together but its not a suggestion!

NeonPinkNails · 23/10/2016 09:16

Oh FGS, how has a sensible question from someone seeking a bit of advice turned into a predictably MN man-bashing thread? wait until the males are sorted - it's nothing to do with them both being male, it's a Dad who'se not being a great parent at the moment. And calling him a cocklodger based on a handful of posts is a bit strong as is referring to the son as a brat.

OP has implied he's a decent bloke and they generally all get on well, how about we stop all the over the top name calling?

FWIW in your situation, OP, I'd definitely be giving it some more thought to make sure everyone's being treated fairly (including you). Coming from a 'blended' family (which didn't work out) I can appreciate how hard it is.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 23/10/2016 09:19

Ooooh, 'cocklodger'. I've not heard this before. I'm learning so many new words here. I like this one.

RandomMess · 23/10/2016 09:25

You absolutely need to get your DP to see his parenting of his DS is being a Disney parent that is damaging for everyone involved.

I would explore going to a relationship therapist to see if you can work it out if he is great an all other aspects. Absolutely don't buy a house with him until it's resolved.

The bedroom things as one off - DD2 and DS can share it once per week - I'd given them the biggest bedroom (you and DP share the medium) so each has there own distinct area. Sure if things really change and DS starts staying over a lot more then you rethink but no bl**dy way do you have 2 sharing so one has their own room - it's just madness!

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