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AIBU to expect my 13yo not to steal from me?

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Icantthinkofanothername · 01/10/2016 15:37

(Have name changed obv)
He takes EVERYTHING. As in, there's some cash on the side in the kitchen - change from fish and chips yesterday - and he took a pound coin (brought it to me after his sister told him I had noticed it was gone). DH & I have a drawer in the kitchen with 'our' snacks in - nuts, dried fruit, chocolates - and a couple of weeks ago he took the chocolate bar that was in there - 150g dairy milk that was for me for a week, and he scoffed the whole thing. He took an unopened pack of (10) caramel rocky bars last weekend, ate the lot - wrappers all under his pillow. I got two tubs of roses (am I showing my age if I say I preferred the tins) because they were on a good offer at tesco, put them away in the cupboard for christmas time (it takes 2 tubs to fill up the 3 kids advent calendars). Spotted only one was there the next day, asked DH if he'd put it somewhere else, but no. Got 13yo son into kitchen, asked if he'd taken it, and he admitted it. Brought leftovers downstairs, and there was literally ten chocolates left. He'd eaten the rest (in less than a day).
We've always been really clear that we need them to tell the truth, as otherwise there is a consequence for what they did (eg taking chocs) and another for lying about it.
I know 13yo's have massive hormonal surges and impulse control issues and struggling to work themselves out, but this is just getting ridiculous. His weight and teeth are fine, he walks to and from school five days a week which is just over 2.5 miles each day, eats maybe 3 or 4 slices of toast for breakfast, then a bacon roll when he gets to school, school hot dinner, 2 apples when he gets home, and tea might be pasta, or soup with bread, or veg stew or something like that, along with another piece of fruit. I get that he's growing like a weed but can always have fruit or toast for a snack if he's hungry, so I can't see it's just hunger, but have pretty much run out of patience! It's not even like it's only food he takes - long story but we had a lot of cash in the house a few weeks ago and know that he took at least £100.
Are all teens like this and I need to get my head round it? I hate having to think twice about what I should do with a handful of change because I worry that if I leave it somewhere he might see it then he'll take it! Do your teens do this? What should I do???

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Icantthinkofanothername · 01/10/2016 17:40

Starlight - not completely vegetarian but tend to lean that way, and yes, lentils in lots of our meals, along with chickpeas, beans and other pulses. His pocket money is for 'extras' - to save up if he wants a particular lego model for example. We give cash and advice for him to choose birthday gifts for siblings etc, none of that kind of thing comes out of his pocket. He choses own clothes, which we pay for, goes to scouts plus scout trips/hikes, camps, after school clubs, other activities etc, we regularly pick up new books for him that we think he might enjoy.
LittleDragon - I agree - extended punishments won't work because the shock wears off - that's where we've struggled I think. He does have opportunities to 'work off' consequences for example if he washes up he can then watch TV for a limited time. Hadn't thought of litter picking though - might well add that one to the metaphorical list!
TheWitTank - yes he's often using money to buy food - but I don't have the skills/expertise to 'get to the bottom of it'! Have tried conversations when everyone calm, but when I ask 'why did you take this' He just says 'I don't know'. I ask if he was hungry or felt like he deserved a treat but we hasn't seemed to realise or did he want something different to what we had around but he just shrugs and says he doesn't know.
All kids same dad btw, who is equally confused/frustrated at the moment!

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Blueskyrain · 01/10/2016 17:41

I expect if we are honest here, many of us have at least once in our lives scoffed an entire packet of something because it was there and we wanted it...

It doesn't mean we all have eating disorders.

FireSquirrel · 01/10/2016 17:41

It seems like he is using the food and money to make himself feel better about himself. You cannot punish a child into behaving better. Punishing him will make him feel even more unhappy.

This, definitely.

Icantthinkofanothername · 01/10/2016 17:42

I do - I just ask him to ask me first!

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Ausernotanumber · 01/10/2016 17:42

Don't know if it's been said but a couple of quid a week pocket money unless you are totally broke at 13 isn't really enough

Off to read rest of thread.

Ausernotanumber · 01/10/2016 17:43

You can't be picking up books he likes. He's 13. He needs to do that for himself.

You sound like you are struggling to treat him like A teen child rather than a 9 or 10.

Blueskyrain · 01/10/2016 17:46

You sound like you are struggling to treat him like A teen child rather than a 9 or 10.

Yep, 100% this

Ausernotanumber · 01/10/2016 17:46

Have now read thread.

i really don't think you are giving him enough protein.

BlancheBlue · 01/10/2016 17:47

Maybe he is sick of lentil and pulse based dishes? Every night?

Icantthinkofanothername · 01/10/2016 17:48

AUserNotANumber - they tend to be books he like - for example he'll get a book from the library and spend three days telling us all about it, so if I see a book in same series or by same writer in a charity shop or something I pick it up for him. I follow his lead - I don't choose what I think he should like, I choose what he's told me or his dad that he particularly likes.
Imperfect - yes, SN =SEN. I tend to use SN as SEN is special educational needs, and I consider his needs to be wider than purely educational!

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Ausernotanumber · 01/10/2016 17:50

Making him ask for food at that age is weird. Having separate sweet boxes all the time is weird too.

My DD at that age got 10 a week pocket money.

Ausernotanumber · 01/10/2016 17:51

He is 13. His mummy shouldn't be choosing his books for him.

Seriously. Lego and mummy choosing his books. If you don't stop he's going to get the Arse ripped clean out of him at school really soon, if he isn't already.

Oly5 · 01/10/2016 17:51

I used to steal from my parents
And eat all the chocolate in the house
I don't now why I did it and I'm obviously embarrassed about it now.
But it was definitely a teenage phase! I was quite a sad teenager.. Is something bothering him?

Blueskyrain · 01/10/2016 17:53

I'm concerned that your attitude towards food is not encouraging him to develop into an independent man, capable of cooking and regulating his own diet.

He should be able to look through the cupboards and make himself something or get a snack if he's hungry.

Coolhughie · 01/10/2016 17:54

Not read full thread, but sounds like me as a child, stole money spent it on mates and treats. I had a normal middle class upbringing.
I grew out of the stealing when I started earning my own money, the food issues are still with me in my late 40s.
Loads of issues about favouritism with parents and being youngest " spoilt child" they couldn't stop me stealing how much they hid money I looked harder. Have you addressed him with your partner?
My mum did not tell my dad. For me it was me screaming for my abusive fathers attention. Not healthy I know but...

Ausernotanumber · 01/10/2016 17:55

DD this morning for breakfast (she's 15) had a huge bowl of special k a cup of coffee two slices of toast and butter and a packet of breadsticks with ALL the pink dip in the Sainsbury's dips.

A breakfast of toast or cereal would not fill her.

Whisky2014 · 01/10/2016 17:56

Ha i used to take full multiplies of crisps etc. The boy is hungry and it sounds more like you have an unhealthy attitude to food more than him.
I also used to nick money (not as much as your boy has taken but odd 10s and 20s) and quite simply it was because my parents didn't give me enough money to get me through the day (school lunches, hanging around train station until train time so maybe buy a magazine). Stuff like that. I'd maybe offer money for chores.

Ptarmigandancinginthegloaming · 01/10/2016 17:57

I don't think it's that odd to have separate sweet boxes for family members - some kids are just greedier than most, and would scoff the lot before others got any (this isn't to do with hunger, some kids have a v sweet tooth, and need some rationing).

And I understand why ur bothered about the food he's taken as well as the money, it's about the stealing, the actual value of the items is irrelevant.
I think many teens try taking something, but once caught and told off it stops - the odd thing is the way he's persisting with stealing, tho is generally well behaved.

I think it may be partly hunger, but it also sound as if he may feel quite insecure in his friendships at school (from the taking of money which got spent on the trip), and now that he's so big it may be hard for him to admit to anyone that he feels shy and scared, so it may come out as anger and comfort eating.
I'd feed him up, offer a bigger tea, and maybe include some comforting puddings to give him the sweetness he seems to crave.

I think u seem to have done the right things so far, but something is driving this behaviour, so u need to sit him down, or maybe take him out somewhere, just the 2 of u, and have a really good talk, to find out what's wrong. He might well be grumpy and defensive, but he probably still needs to be told how much u love him, and that u always will, and that u want to help.

Ausernotanumber · 01/10/2016 17:57

How much money were you intending to give him for the theme park trip?

He definitely shouldn't have stolen the 100 quid but he sounds short of money and short on independence to me.

Starlight234 · 01/10/2016 18:01

Can I ask if you lean towards vegetarian or him? The reason I ask my DS asked if he could go vegetarian recently ..I said no..One reason apart from he wasn't really bothered. Was I told him as he approaches adolescence he will be needing more protein and meat as well as fish is the easiest way to feed him that. All my friends with teen boys talk about the hollow legs..

What I would do is simply buy packet of treats weekends and plain digestives, etc for the rest of the week. The stealing money is one thing.

I think you maybe need to work a little bit more of giving him more money but expect him to pay for more out of it. in a few years he could be working, will have to budget.. learn the feeling of having to save for something.. like I say my 9 year old I expect to waste his £2 a week.. Sometimes I feel like I might as well of just chucked it in the bin , however this is a lesson in life for him..Let him put it in a vending machine for 1 packet of crisps when he could of walked over to the shop and bought 6 packs.. All lesons in life we had to learn.

I wonder if the taking the £100 ( not condoning it ) is because his mates always have more money than him?

Ausernotanumber · 01/10/2016 18:05

If you take away his tablet and he doesn't have a phone (you don't mention one) you are making him quite socially isolated in today's world of snapchat Facebook etc

And that's tough for a teenager.

Coolhughie · 01/10/2016 18:08

After reading more I got food with the money I stole as well. Mainly things I couldn't get at home KFC and mars bars, a treat was a curry that I never would of picked at the time.

Blueskyrain · 01/10/2016 18:11

Taking away books is also the last thing you want to do. It's nice for a teenage boy to show an interest in reading - it should be encouraged. Many boys his age will just be on their consoles all the time.

Icantthinkofanothername · 01/10/2016 18:12

AUserNotANumber Have you actually read what I've written? He chooses book ALL BY HIMSELF, and I keep an eye out when I'm out and about for more of the same. And if he chose to focus his attention on complex lego models, I see no reason to discourage him - he enjoys it.
Thank you for the suggestions, Starlight and Ptarmigan - will make some changes, cross my fingers and ensure DH and I both give him some opportunities to chat.

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Icantthinkofanothername · 01/10/2016 18:14

BlueSkyRain that's why I've not done this up to this point. But at the same time, today he's spent probably eight hours reading - only stopped when it's time to eat or take the dogs out! Is there such a thing as too much reading?!?

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