Is it me or has there been a lot less activity on MN recently?

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It could be me...but it seems there's less new threads happening...anyone else noticed this? It's probably been in the past month or maybe two that I've noticed.

The champagne socialist living in London who has moved on may or may not be because of BREXIT: I just don't know.

I do suspect both sides feel aggrieved and edgy. I can understand those who were passionately pro-Remain being upset. My immediate friends (who Facebook is made up of) don't have jobs that rely on being in the E.U. and so perhaps I shouldn't comment, but when you read six or seven times in one day 'thanks a lot you thick racist cunts, this is what YOU have done to MY family' it gets a bit much.

I also think the 'champagne socialist' tendency has ironically led to a lot of the Hun-ing. Post a thread saying your benefits have been stopped and they are your only form of income and you have five children and you'll get several pages of flowers, tea, referrals to food banks, 'hand holding' and support. Post that your husband has lost his low paid job and you can't make the mortgage repayments that month and you'll be accused of being a troll, told curtly he can get another one and isn't trying hard enough and he should go back to college. There's a definite disconnect between those reliant on benefits who are without question helpless saints and those who work for a low salary (own fault.) I suspect because many on here benefit from low wages and the like - cleaners and nannies and gardeners and so on.

The result is that the former group like it, feel supported and there are definitely some in this group who cannot be questioned and are above reproach in all matters relating to parenting and housework and money, so they stick around. Those in the latter group go elsewhere. So we have the Haves - with money, privately educate the children, have a cleaner, vote Labour, read the Guardian, voted Remain (Corbyn is a bit awkward but we won't talk about that!) and lavish support and love and honey on the Have Nots: on benefits and repeat what the Haves have told them.

Someone successful, intelligent, thoughtful and kind who voted to leave the EU doesn't fit into this scenario so are ignored.

I nearly deleted all that but took me too long to type.

I've been avoiding until the political shit dies down a bit. I don't like how divided and angry it's made people (and I don't just mean on Mumsnet). I find the way things are going quite depressing because people are polarised and some of the behaviours I've seen (from both sides) seem very much like a backwards step for tolerance and togetherness.

I'm glad you didn't delete it Kate, it perfectly describes how I see it too.

I've been avoiding because of all the political shite spouted by people who know nothing.

But what has put me off the most is the stupid bastard adverts constantly making the page move about. I just switched on and there was a whole page ad of a pizza. I know I could be all computer savvy and use an ad blocker but it is getting ridiculous and is seriously putting me off using this site.

Thank you katemiddletonsnudeheels, I think you speak for a lot of us.

I'm not sure about that!

On a serious note, I think from a passive point of view what is interesting is the way the word 'selfish' has been used. Leave voters are 'selfish' (or thick, or old, or all three) for having voted in the way they did. A similar theme emerges on threads about voting for the Conservative party. 'Selfish' is the overriding theme on there, too.

Yet if you read the majority of threads started by hand-wringing Remainers (I normally have more patience, sorry) their worries are selfish ones. They worry that their (or, more usually, their partners) job has / will be lost/changed. They worry their children will not have the opportunity to live or study in the E.U. They worry their home will drop in value, or that they won't be able to sell.

Now, I am not for one moment saying those concerns aren't valid. However, they are not concerns that are based on the good of the human race as a whole, which IS something that differs in the Conservatice/labour lexis. I read more times than I have had hot dinners last spring that 'I would personally benefit more from the conservatives being in power but I voted labour because I'm a good person and the fact you didn't do the same is proof you're not a nice person; end of discussion.'

I wonder if it is because Brexit has crossed and divided parties. I just don't know. What I don't understand is why 'selfishness' is acceptable when you are thinking of your job, your husbands job and your children's future, but somehow, when you vote Leave thinking of your job, your husbands job and your children's future from a different yet still valid perspective, you are called disgusting names.

Ah, well. I suppose it will right itself in time :)

I agree with the posters above who said that the site would be improved with a block/ignore poster function. It's just standard on most forums now.
I feel that many threads are being hijacked now. If there was an ignore button I would be able to ignore those posters without having to scroll past pages of shite.
Forums in general are becoming less popular nowadays and mumsnet is no exception. That's what I see as the main cause.

Yes, I agree, many threads are being hijacked by posters who appear to want to make the same point over and over and over again until they "win". It is boring.

Perhaps HQ will reconsider? I know its a question that's been asked many times before. Maybe someone should be brave and start yet another thread about it!

'In fact, I'd say the (majority of the) Remain voters' attitude was the worst thing about the referendum.'

Funny. I think the result is the worst thing.

Brexit is the main reason I haven't been around. The constant whining from the people who voted Leave about how everyone has been so mean to them. Tedious in the extreme.

And yes, a block user option would be fabulous!

Couldn't agree more, Crystal.

Well, it shows how we have different perspectives according to our views, doesn't it?

Who'd have thought it!

Agree with Kate The hate and vitriol is astounding and threads are being sometimes sarcastically hijacked which is bad form
Thing is if you want to write about thick racist cunts then do at least put your insults in the correct topic. If I see anything stating thick it really annoys me. Posters cannot possibly know who attained which degree or which University anyone did or didn't attend.
There is an EU topic, put the insults in that topic and then posters can hide it if they so wish. It always amazes me that people spout vitriol on an online forum when they don't even know who they are addressing. If racist is screamed how do they know what colour someone is? I hate racism and all the isms and there are things I have read on here which have really angered and upset me. Not specifically EU related but where I come from we are apparently all inbreds. That's one example of why people don't post. How do you deal with being labelled inbred? I deal with it by ignoring and trying to get on with my life.

Crystal I am genuinely a decent person and I have taken absolutely no pleasure in the fact people are distressed about the result. I don't know you or how it might have impacted on you, but I obviously regret it if it's caused you upset.

But by the same token you surely must understand that people didn't vote with your personal situation as the primary consideration - just as your vote didn't take mine into account.

So with that in mind personal attacks (and they have been) really aren't on.

I haven't made any personal attacks so I'm certainly not going to apologise on behalf of people who voted Remain and then acted like a bit of a dick after the 23rd June. Just as I wouldn't expect you to apologise on behalf of people who voted Leave and then took it as a mandate to be openly racist.

But you have stated that the result is the worst thing and implied, though not actually said, that therefore unpleasant insults are justified.

Er, what?? You're making a bit of a leap there kate. I've said the worst thing about the referendum is the result. Because in my opinion it most certainly is. I think it's a catastrophe.

I presume I'm still allowed hold an opinion contrary to the one that 52% voted for? Or has a new ruling been brought in that says we're no longer hold the view that the UK should have stayed in the EU?

You seem determined to play the victim though. Why is that?

You know that you are :)

You also know we were talking about Mumsnet and the fact it isn't a very nice place at the moment and that seems to be putting people off posting.

The implication in your post was that the result of the referendum was so terrible everything else paled into comparison.

It's because it's summer and people spend more time outdoors or go on holiday. It happens on all forums

While all this is going on we have a new PM as AL has pulled out so TM is uncontested

No, I'm not playing the victim

I think you seem determined to be aggressive and belligerent but I'm sure you're quite nice in real life.

Oh kate you poor thing. I responded to someone who said that they thought worst thing about the ref was the attitude of Remain voters. While I have no doubt that there has been dickish behaviour from people on both sides I'm afraid I do not share your opinion that a few hurt feelings on MN are more important than the catastrophe that is the UK leaving the EU.

But you clearly do. I'm not sure you're all that nice in real life.