To find it annoying if men try n do certain things for me, like open car doors or help with chairs

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Ffs I can open the car door myself and seat down at a table without help

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I did ask upthread if you would share your opinions because I'd like to read them, Querty.

I think my invisibility cloak must be working again.

it doesn't.and it does. Just the same as anyone else's truth.

But you have misrepresented other people posts on here so consistently that maybe it's time you said what you actually think, rather than what you think other people think.

Honestly I don't want the rebound of it. And I have given opinions on here that I love the tradition of men holding doors and shit. Judge all you like, I don't care.

And so you reduce it all to that. It was all over men holding doors...sure.

Ego I have read some of your posts on other threads and been a bit or but you know what, I'm glad you contribute on MN because you are interesting. And I like that.

Yeah but I don't want to wind anyone up Elsie. I really don't. I find the conversation fruity and engaging but I don't want to add fuel to the fire!

No, it wasn't nastiness Querty. It was a comprehensive description of your behaviour. You're coming across very poorly and irrationally.

I've had severe MH issues myself so am sympathetic (and I do suggest deep breathing exercises as a way of reducing panic), but only you can protect yourself by withdrawing from a conversation if it's damaging or upsetting you.

Meanwhile you've successfully pulled the discussion away from internalised misogyny which was the point of the "interesting thread" and made it all about something indecipherable about you instead. Was that your goal?

To me that seems a real shame.

No i was referring to Bertrand who said I haven't given any opinions previously which I have. If I wanted to go to town on the bullshit that I think feminism is then I could. But I'm not going to.

Apologised!!!

"Yeah but I don't want to wind anyone up Elsie. I really don't. I find the conversation fruity and engaging but I don't want to add fuel to the fire!"

So why did you insist on telling people they were thinking/saying something they weren't? Did you not read the thread? Is that the problem?

And I really want to know where you got the "rules of feminism on this thread" ..........

Unhinged is not an accurate description. And if you do have mh you wouldn't use that word. And I have a HISTORY, no current problems.

Bertrand? I've apologised for it. You're just dragging it out.

the bullshit that I think feminism is

And there we have it.

Personally I don't think feminism is bullshit and I am happy to debate that.

I think feminism has done a huge amount to expose how many traditions in many cultures are overtly and covertly damaging to women and girls - and boys and men.

I'm not engaging anymore Querty. Get help.

Bertrand it's how it comes across to me 'you're either for it or you're against it and you fucking well know about it too'

Get help? Fuck me.

Liney why is that a surprise? I've already made it clear I don't agree with feminism. And I made of clear I didn't want to turn it into that despite the fa t that I have been accused of trying to turn it on me. Which I don't want to! I find the general conversation about how the original op's link to feminism very interesting. That why I'm here.

"Bertrand it's how it comes across to me 'you're either for it or you're against it and you fucking well know about it too'"

Right. C&P some posts from this thread that say that. Or even imply it.

And while you're about it, let's have your brutal truth.

As I've said, the other threads have interested me a hell of a lot aswell, just becasue I think it's bullshit doesn't mean I don't have respect for the people that believe if