To find it annoying if men try n do certain things for me, like open car doors or help with chairs

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Ffs I can open the car door myself and seat down at a table without help

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And for the record I didn't tell her not to post, I asked her not to get involved when she didn't know the facts. Very different. But you know carry on misquoting me if it makes you feel better.

You do realise that your posts can be read by anyone? Because you keep contradicting yourself and making nasty comments about others, then complaining you've been attacked or misquoted.

Its very difficult keeping track of your version of events when you keep changing it.

Oh Jesus

Mis quote Mis quote Mis quote

I will just carry on wearing my non feminist, non judgy hat and be on my way.

Does anyone else think that may e it's a case of hmmm ok I'm going to be very careful with the words I choose
Feminists -quite rightly- are SOMETIMES defensive? If that's the right word over what they think. Other wise people won't take it seriously. To some this come across as aggressive to some? But to others it's just passion. I come across some feminists who I wouldn't say are ' in your face' about it, but some feminists make it very known that they are. Personally in rl I have cousin this intimidating. T makes me feel inferior. It doesn't make what feminists believe wrong or negate it, it's just how I have been made to feel in the past. This could possibly colour my view of feminism now? It's hard to shake my assumptions sometimes. But I try my best. Everyone's contribution is valid I suppose. So sorry if I've offended you.

That was supposed to read 'I sometimes find this intimidating'

Cousin?!

Trying to feed baby while typing never good

""And fwiw Bertrand, I was making a point that an old man holding a door isn't crime of the fucking century. He wasn't patronising me, he wasn't trying to insult me or belittle"

Querty- can I ask why you posted this- when everybody in the last God knows how many posts was saying exactly the same thing?

Op pick your battles, yes it is called being polite. Damned if you do, damned if you dont!

I was trying to make the point that not every man is an INTENTIONSLLY patronising git. I didn't get that vibe from some posters. Just keeeeeep on criticising me if it makes u feel better.

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What aero said.

I'm not going to keep apologising to randomers when I've done nothing wrong, I've tried to make amends, and I have made an effort to try and understand your POV. along with following you guys on the other threads. As a woman with s young son this is all quite enlightening for me.

And the post about "the rules of feminism"? What was that about?

And I apologise in advance for my fucking terrible autocorrect/ spelling etc, multi tasking is not my forte and probably looks as if I'm typing with my toes.

Because that's how I see it. Women who are feminists see things a certain way, and people either agree or you're out, you don't count. But like I've said previously that is what I have experienced, how I've been made to feel. As you are all entitled to an opinion, I am too.

I am constantly made to feel that I am a bad woman, I am lower, I'm stupid or I'm not educated because I'm not a feminist. And as someone with a university education and an experience in the world I find it insulting. But if I retaliate I get abused.

And not tryin to be goady at all honestly. Not at all. That is not my intention.

The abuse I'm referring to is feminists I have encountered past and present. I have had very few positive experiences trying to engage with a feminist.

Ego you took that quote out of context, do you get off on being nasty? I'm actually really upset in real life over this. I feel really ganged up on.

I am constantly made to feel that I am a bad woman, I am lower, I'm stupid or I'm not educated because I'm not a feminist. And as someone with a university education and an experience in the world I find it insulting. But if I retaliate I get abused.

Dont take that out on feminists online and expect us not to stand up to you. You chose to 'play devils advocate' by lying about what feminists said. Thats not a healthy response to your problem.