To find it annoying if men try n do certain things for me, like open car doors or help with chairs

[LardLizard]

Ffs I can open the car door myself and seat down at a table without help

[ILoveDolly]

I love it. Sometimes I like to hold the door open for older men though, just to mess with them

[EveryoneElsie]

Hopefully things like that will fade out and cease to exist one day

Thats an ambiguous statement that could be made by any major world religion.
Things dont fade out, people work to change them for the better.

[Querty12345]

I'm feeling really zen right now. Like I'm learning, taking things in.

[Querty12345]

you think that, that's why you're a feminist.

[WeAreTheOthers]

I take the view that if they do it for me I don't have to do it myself.

[EveryoneElsie]

Well religion didnt do it, so hopefully education, equality and compassion can.

[Querty12345]

Yeah I get that. But I think our children (I hope) are growing up in a world very different to even the world 20 years ago. Hopefully things like that will fade out and cease to exist one day. We can hope.

[SquidgeyMidgey]

My DH always holds doors for me, doesn't go as far as car doors or pulling out chairs. He will always hold a door for anyone coming along behind but one day a woman came behind, stopped midway and full on ranted at him, properly turning the air blue. So he let go of the rather large and very heavy glass door and walked away.

[Querty12345]

You know what I don't know. I really don't. I don't know if there's a line or what. Maybe if we do our best that's good enough. But we shall see. I think when you're a parent, some things you think and say rub off on your kids don't they. I know it happened to me when I was a child

[Querty12345]

Were you never taught 'I want' doesn't get you anywhere.

[Querty12345]

They didn't say it Bertrand, I'm going o say for the last time I've apologised for my previous comments. Now can u leave it?

[Querty12345]

You know what it is? I feel guilt. Like guilt that I'm female. Do you understand? Like I should apologise because I'm female. That's how I feel sometimes.

[BertrandRussell]

OK.

I want to know the "brutal truth"

I want to know where in this thread you found "the rules of feminism"

I want to know where on this thread anyone said that an 80 year old man opening a door for a woman is a "patronizing arsehole"

[Querty12345]

Sorry, it was kind of a forward thinking question. He's still a baby. But I do wonder. I was raised in a house full of women so it will be a very different experience for me when he is older.

[Querty12345]

Stop 😏

[Querty12345]

Ego does that mean I'm a bad woman and a bad mum to my son becasue I'm not a feminist (genuine question)

[Querty12345]

Ego i was being light hearted.

[Querty12345]

I don't understand which part you're referring to. Jesus. I'm not saying you need it I just offered it. Im not here to be intentionally rude or shit over what you believe