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To be fed up of feeling like I'm a second-class member of society

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Mummyme1987 · 29/05/2016 02:11

I had a serious car accident a few years ago, and have various medical complications too. I use a wheelchair. I'm fed up with this feeling that because I have mobility and medical problems, I'm not a full member of society. I overheard a now non friend imply that I was a drain on society because I don't work. Lately I've had issues with people talking over me, at a checkout I'm ignored and even though my hand is out for the change it's given to my husband. Little things like people moving my wheelchair so I'm facing the wall. Even moving me so I bash my toes. And then there is the parking issues, comments about being too young to have mobility problems, like being young stops car accidents. I've put on weight since the accident, so i get a lot of too fat to walk comments. Why do people do this? My family are fab, we have other disabilities in the family, and at home I don't feel this way. Im now finding I don't enjoy leave the house unless I have too. Im fed up with other people's attitudes. When I have talked to these people about the attitude, they always try to lay it at my feet with the dont be so sensitive, maybe you are depressed (I'm not), I'm actually really happy, I just am fed up with your attitude! Im not even sure why i am writing this but it has boiled ever today.

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BishopBrennansArse · 08/06/2016 10:59

Don't know, I'm on the app and it deleted as I tried to post to it. It's someone I recognise being around for years.

Akire · 08/06/2016 12:01

im out in favorite coffee shop one street away, have slowly trained the staff up. So give me paper cup I can lift not ten tonne bucket, plus straw and to open sugar jar that you need muscles to unclip. Have also taught them BSL for thank you!

Been up and down they had new girl who asked my friend why I had left a few days before without finishing my coffee, while I was next to her! Needless to say she didn't do that again. But only because I got really upset and staff know me well enough to think something must have happened. She's still abit on cautious side talking to me now but small steps!

hope your day is empty of assholes love it- so true!

Akire · 08/06/2016 12:08

Have signed petition hope it does well. Shame because if had anything to do with let's prosecute woman who put cat in bin it have millions by now! Meanwhile our day to day life is made harder when we can't get out or can't get back home to park even in desananted spots.

I live in flats have 4 disabled flats and 4 bays. Everyone else parks in them. I don't have car so lucky carer can pull out space then get me in but not always the case. Was thinking about looking at mobility scheme but how stressful would it be to get home and never know if o could get out of the car! Sadly people are selfish

Sixweekstowait · 08/06/2016 14:33

Hello - no I've been on MN a while - I didn't ask for it to be deleted and I haven't heard from MN

LurkingHusband · 08/06/2016 14:36

Hello - no I've been on MN a while - I didn't ask for it to be deleted and I haven't heard from MN

Odd ...

Deleting a thread you have started
We don't generally delete whole threads; it's frustrating for those who've taken the time to write responses to see them removed. That said, we're here to make people's lives easier, so if you have a pressing reason for wanting a thread you started to be deleted, please report it to us and we'll take a look.

UnderaRock · 08/06/2016 15:18

Two doctor appointments today. Pulmonology at 1 and PCP at 3 ugh I did remember to charge my chair last binightght tho

UnderaRock · 08/06/2016 15:18

Night! Sorry for the typo

IcaMorgan · 08/06/2016 15:36

This is the deletion message

Message from MNHQ: Thanks for reports, folks, we think it's best for this to come down.

BishopBrennansArse · 08/06/2016 15:40

Oh of course. Because God forbid a disabled person gets bolshy.

IcaMorgan · 08/06/2016 15:43

They could have just changed the wording like they do when people get called morons etc (only using the word to prove the point)

Sixweekstowait · 08/06/2016 15:45

Sorry had to stop posting as break over - I am at work. I've emailed HQ to ask why deleted. The phrase 'walkie talkie' was coined by one of the leading disability rights campaigners in the 80s - it might have been Mike Oliver. I didn't expect such a reaction to it - point taken - but find the phrase 'the disabled' much much worse. I think there a lot of disabilism and everyday disabilism on MN

IcaMorgan · 08/06/2016 16:00

There certainly is

Akire · 08/06/2016 16:12

What thread was it?

EverySongbirdSays · 08/06/2016 16:43

I am relatively new to MN, but have been shocked by the amount of vitriol against disabled people, often in a way were it's very clear that the poster doesn't realise that what they are saying is prejudiced, ableist or offensive.

The worst offenders are always parking or wheelchair space because god forbid anyone's entitlement outranks either Mummys Precious Darling or Mummy herself.

The absolute worst which was so horrendous and awful I had to hide it - was the one about the word "spastic" page after page of YABU it's just a word and aren't you and your friends horrendous and spiteful people to have excluded someone for using it in an SN group setting. I had to hide the fucker, it was so rage inducing.

LurkingHusband · 08/06/2016 16:45

Bourdic

Please keep us updated (via PM if needs be). As I said, I am wary of TAAT as I know that's a no-no. However, is there a space - maybe a safe space - where MNetters can discuss MN ?

If the use of that phrase is the sole reason for the threads deletion, it's an interesting comment on who you are allowed to insult on Mumsnet. A site we have already learned (on this very thread) has put its less-able users on the back burner when it comes to accessibilty.

Maybe we should be grateful the Daily Mail does watch Mumsnet so closely ?

Sixweekstowait · 08/06/2016 17:07

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Mummyme1987 · 08/06/2016 17:08

You might want to delete that post it has your email and name in it x

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Sixweekstowait · 08/06/2016 17:08

So there it is - the wt word - or as I would say wtf!! On way home now so will post a bit later re way forward

Sixweekstowait · 08/06/2016 17:09

Oh bloody hell

IcaMorgan · 08/06/2016 17:11

But isn't that term meant to describe able bodied people with no disabilities so why is it upsetting people with hidden disabilities?

Mummyme1987 · 08/06/2016 17:13

I've reported your post as its got your name in it x

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Akire · 08/06/2016 17:14

I've never heard that term? Who's it meant to be and insult?

Mummyme1987 · 08/06/2016 17:15

People love to get offended on the behalf of others

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LurkingHusband · 08/06/2016 17:17

I have read many offensive words on Mumsnet over the years. Occasionally I have seen MNHQ pull a post if it's beyond the pale.

However to pull an entire thread because of a word directed by the disabled at the insensitive able-bodied.

I'm a little Shock that of all people, MNHQ would side with the able against the disabled. Or give the appearance of. At least it underscores this threads title about being second-class citizens ....

LurkingHusband · 08/06/2016 17:20

Akire

suggest you refrain from discussion here. It's not welcome Sad ...

FWIW I had never heard the term before (as I had never heard of slope before the TG incident). The only upset it would cause me (as an able bodied person) would be on behalf of MrsLH who can no longer walk.

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