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To think if you want to get rid of David Cameron, vote Leave.

217 replies

NotnowNigel · 16/04/2016 11:31

Ken Clarke has said that "David Cameron won't last 30 seconds if the country votes leave".

That will plunge the Tories into civil war in the party. George will probably take over et voila!

George will never win an election. He has all the charisma of a blocked sink.

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Catvsworld · 16/04/2016 21:08

I thought the labour lovelies were above self interest

During the election I was told on here that Tory's are selfish and only vote for self interest lol how the worm as turned

You would fuck the country potentially if you believe or not because you want to get rid of Dave

Catvsworld · 16/04/2016 21:09

Oh a Corbin has been forced by labour to back stay in if you think anything else you must be smoking

CockacidalManiac · 16/04/2016 21:09

WTF are 'labour lovelies'?

diaimchlo · 16/04/2016 21:12

ok CockacidalManiac

I have tried in my post of Sat 16-Apr-16 20:06:01, saying that I may have worded it wrong and apologised for the way you had taken it, but you seem determined to carry this on.

I voiced my opinion, which you have every right to disagree with. You have voiced your opinion, which I respect but disagree with the way it was put over.

I think any further interaction between the 2 of us would be futile, so I will not be entering any.

I would at this point wish you all the best.

CockacidalManiac · 16/04/2016 21:17

The Eu introduced the legislation that enabled the privatisation of Royal Mail. We can't renationalise industries because of the EU. For an organisation that supposedly protects workers rights, they make damn sure they destroyed the Greeks.

CockacidalManiac · 16/04/2016 21:18

There's a decent left wing case for leaving the EU too. It's a monstrous, corrupt, superstate in the making. Auditors have refused to sign off the accounts for years now.

CockacidalManiac · 16/04/2016 21:19

I think there's strong arguments for both sides. It's not just the Tories that are thinking about this.

Scarriff · 16/04/2016 21:20

Labour lovies? OOOOh I think I know the answer to that one. Labour Lovies insist on voting Labour whatever the state of its leadership but amass as much private wealth as possible, embrace infependent schooling, private medicine, tax shelters, second homes in the.sun..... Margaret Hodge or Polly Toynbee might be well known examples........

CockacidalManiac · 16/04/2016 21:21

Hypocrisy is in no way the sole preserve of the left, and you know that.

Scarriff · 16/04/2016 21:22

Just answering the question.' Helpful face'

FirstWeTakeManhattan · 16/04/2016 21:24

FirstwetakeManhatten. The Socialist worker people are running around central London shouting abuse too. Definitely makes us all realise we are wrong about everything and you are right

Ah, hello again Scariff. Wonder if you could take a moment to tell me what I'm right about here.

I'm still in the dark on that one.

CockacidalManiac · 16/04/2016 21:24

Not very well ' nothelpful face'

CaptainAnkles · 16/04/2016 21:24

I loathe David Cameron and the current government. However, I will answer the question posed by the referendum when I vote, rather than trying to express my feelings through misguidedness and just voting against the government's view.

CockacidalManiac · 16/04/2016 21:26

I don't think that Scarriff is particularly well informed. Either that, or she is equating the whole of the British left with the bizarre little cult that is the SWP.

Catvsworld · 16/04/2016 21:32

poster Scarriff

Exactly

they tell the working class what medicine to take but refuse it themslefs

Labour grammar schools are evil must be shut down , stopped and none new aloud to re open

Didn't stop Corbin sending his son there but apperntly there awful

Dian abbot rages against the Tory toff giden and his bullingdon club mates her son private school off she sent him

Fucking Bob crow moaned about the poor wilest hogging a coucil home that a actual homeless family could have had when he could of easily afford to buy or rent a property I would of been raging if I was one of those poor workers stuck in temporary accomdation waiting for a home

CockacidalManiac · 16/04/2016 21:34

Dian abbot rages against the Tory toff giden and his bullingdon club mates her son private school off she sent him

Are you Geoffrey Chaucer?

Scarriff · 16/04/2016 21:36

OK I don't look at AIBU very often but I do notice that the left leaning posters are often abusive, strident and assume they are right all the time. Kind of boring and shuts down debate. In the same way the people marching this afternoon seem to take pride in being personally offensive. I'm surprised you don't notice yourself and had to keep asking what I meant, but I do think you turn people off. It is like shouting all the time.

CockacidalManiac · 16/04/2016 21:37

Love the Tories on here sometimes. They're the very definition of 'can't take it, but can dish it out'.

Scarriff · 16/04/2016 21:41

Maniac You've been dishing it out all day as far as I can see. So its true. You really dont notice yourself. Interesting.

CockacidalManiac · 16/04/2016 21:43

Lol, you're the one that first appeared attacking another poster. That was ages before I showed up.
And there was you banging on about hypocrisy too...

Justanotherlurker · 16/04/2016 21:44

During the election I was told on here that Tory's are selfish and only vote for self interest lol how the worm as turned

This, I'm enjoying the irony in a lot of these posts.

Scarriff · 16/04/2016 21:45

Maniac I think you may have a oroblem this evening. I will leave you to it.

Itinerary · 16/04/2016 21:46

So you don't worry about the low paid and vulnerable members of our society???? If we leave the EU they will loose all of their human rights

Britain has a proud history of human rights dating back hundreds of years.

The Magna Carta of 1215 guaranteed the rights of the people against the King's wishes. It was also a precursor to trial by jury. It included the following:

^No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgement of his equals or by the law of the land.

To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice.^

A quote from the British Library website Magna Carta an introduction

"Buried deep in Magna Carta, this clause was given no particular prominence in 1215, but its intrinsic adaptability has allowed succeeding generations to reinterpret it for their own purposes. In the 14th century Parliament saw it as guaranteeing trial by jury; in the 17th century Sir Edward Coke (1552-1634) interpreted it as a declaration of individual liberty in his conflict with the early Stuart kings; and it has echoes in the American Bill of Rights (1791) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948)."

Britain had already introduced a good deal of helpful legislation long before we joined the EU in 1992.

For example on the subject of women's rights, the Abortion Act 1967 and the Equal Pay Act 1970. In addition, the UK's own Equality Act of 2010 would continue if we leave the EU.

The Domestic Violence Act and the Employment Protection Act were passed independently of the EU, and the Divorce Reform Act was passed before we joined the EU.

We do not need the EU for human rights in our country.

CockacidalManiac · 16/04/2016 21:49

This, I'm enjoying the irony in a lot of these posts.

I disagree. There's a very good argument to be made that it's Tory self interest that has caused this whole mess.

Scarriff · 16/04/2016 21:53

Justanotherlurker Maniac would blame the Tories for the weather. No humour, no self awareness, no manners.no interest in anyone else's views. Take no notice.