To think that shops and pubs are no place for dogs?

[Misssss]

We went to the pub for dinner last night. It is a naice pub with a good menu. When we walked in at about 7.30pm there was a cacophony of barking because at least four dogs, owned by different people, had decided to "play," with each other.

This afternoon we were shopping at a little retail park. Lots of little handbag type dogs were being paraded round. One woman even let her two dogs walk all over the rugs on display.

Aibu to think that they shouldn't be there? Why can't the dogs be left at home. Obviously these weren't guide dogs, just pets.

Oh and btw, I wasn't giving you the information because it's new to me or because I've only just discovered it. I was giving it to you because based on the only evidence I had to go on - your posts - you didn't appear to know it. And nothing you've said since has caused me to change my opinion on that.

I like pubs without small children. I also prefer pubs without loud conversation, don't like stinky toilets, hate loud music etc. In all these likes and dislikes, I just go about life finding places that suit me and avoiding those that don't. I actually think having dogs in pubs tends to add to the cozy family atmosphere as long as they sit there being quiet. Generally they are where they ought to be. If you dont like it, choose somewhere else. Life is surely too short.

Shops, well, on holiday it's occasionally a real treat to find shops that allow dogs - the hiking shops in betws y coed are a good example. I expect the retailers have worked out - rightly - that it's good for trade. But dog friendly shops on the whole are v unusual, ime of 11 years of dog-friendly holidaying, so I'm not sure it's a real issue to be bothered by.

Flirty
Hair doesn't float upwards though, unless there is a big draft. And if there was enough airflow to push hair around, you don't even want to know what it would be whipping up from the floors and seats.

I've been a waitress and I carried plates at above-waist height. It would have to be a pretty huge dog for the hair to drop onto plates

Pubs smell. Pubs have drunk people, muddy people, puking people, sweaty people.
People who don't wash their hands after going to the loo, people who have come there straight from playing rugby caked in mud, people who haven't had a shower for 48 hours and are mortally hung over.

Toilets have traces of class A drugs, floors are covered in god knows what (you should see the colour of the water after they've been mopped)

If you are such a special snowflake that a bit of dog hair will offend your delicate nose and hygiene standards, a pub surely isn't your first choice of destination?

*draught

Yeah ok then, dogs aren't pack animals. I always believe someone is experienced about dogs when they start explaining the difference between an actual wolf pack and studies on captive wild animals as though it's news, when some of us take it for granted. Or for thinking that someone might use 'pack' in reference to some antiquated training method, rather than just a quick way to differentiate between group animals such as pack of dogs, herd of horses, and those that live lone lifestyles except for breeding.

flirty that's absolutely your choice, and one many businesses recognise a market for and cater to by having no dogs rules. Doesn't mean every business must. Dog owners don't turn up at those places and start whining 'but I want to bring my dog in'. So no need for people to turn up at dog friendly places and then start whining they don't want dogs there.

I think you'd need a lot of dogs in a pub to get a hairy plate of chips. Their owners would all have to be brushing them st the same time as well it's funny but in years of cat and latterly doc ownership I've never found hair in my food.

So many people talk crazy about their dogs and yet will leave them on their own for the whole day. Oh I love my dog! But not enough to see to their emotional needs for 8 hours a day.

I think you'll find they're a minority, and all the lovely sensible dog owners on this thread would look down on them too.

Just though I'd throw that in there. Seeing as how there's at least three different conversations running in here already.