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Tension with fiance over wedding guest list - who is BU?

237 replies

RunningUpThatHillAgain · 19/08/2015 10:12

I’m getting married next month and at the time of sending the invites in June, his youngest brother (26) was single. In the entire 5 years I have known him, he’s never had a girlfriend lasting more than a couple of months – I’ve seen him get attached extremely quickly then heartbroken when the girl ends it numerous times. He’s got a big heart, but very old-fashioned sensibilities such as wanting a woman to stay at home while he takes care of them, and TBH I think it’s scared them off. He’s never been diagnosed, but I strongly suspect he is on the autistic spectrum and he still lives at home with his parents. Not sure how much of that is relevant to my question but didn’t want to drip feed.

Anyway, a couple of weeks ago, he calls my OH asking whether his new “partner” of 2 months can come to our wedding – he said if money was the issue he would pay for her. OH and I talked it over and I said I wasn’t comfortable with this. If indeed she was his partner, not a new girlfriend it would be a different (OH has 3 other siblings who are either married or in long term relationships and they are naturally invited) but the cynic in me thinks in all likelihood the brother and his girlfriend might have split up by the wedding. OH and I have met her twice at family BBQs, but we never actually spoke to each other – she was preoccupied with her 18 month old son who OH’s DB sees as his own, even after such a short space of time. Being nosy, I had a look at her Facebook profile – it’s all duck-face pouts at that “flattering” angle to disguise the fact she is morbidly obese exactly the kind of photos that make me cringe.

So I gave OH the following reasons why I wasn’t comfortable with her coming to the day do:

  1. I have already confirmed the wedding breakfast seating plan with the venue and tables seat a max. of 9. There are already 9 people around OH’s family table and either 8 or 9 on other tables, meaning OH’s brother and his girlfriend would either have to sit separately or I would have to split up other families so they could sit together.
  2. I feel self conscious enough about walking down the aisle already without sharing this moment with people who mean nothing to me.
  3. I don’t want someone I barely know in the family wedding photos who in my eyes isn’t family especially if she is pouting

OH seemed to understand point 1, thought I was being daft about point 2 and didn’t get point 3 at all. As a compromise I suggested that she was welcome to come to the evening do instead. OH reluctantly accepted, phoned his DB and told him this, giving the reason that we were full to capacity for the day do (which strictly we’re not, but we wanted to spare DB’s feelings) However as OH came off the phone he had tears in his eyes and said he felt he had let his DB down, which he said I didn’t understand because I’m an only child. I could see his point, but felt that my reasons were equally valid.

I thought the matter was closed, until a week later when OH’s DM phoned him up saying she didn’t think he was right that DB’s girlfriend wasn’t invited to the day do because it was sending out a message that we weren’t accepting her as part of the family and “it’s ridiculous that you can’t squeeze her in”, etc. OH didn’t tell me about this phone call for several days, during which time he was subdued and I literally had to worm it out of him what the problem was. He said he’d realised that he agreed with his DM and that it was “mean spirited” of me not to want DB’s girlfriend there and he couldn’t believe I had it in me to be like that. I told him that I had confided in two friends and my parents about it and they completely saw my point of view. OH now seems to think the reason I don’t want her to be in the photos is because she is obese (which I stress is not the reason!) and this makes me a “horrible person”. A huge row ensued, him saying “if she’s not coming, the wedding’s off!” me standing my ground. I couldn’t believe the way he was reacting – we’ve managed to plan the entire wedding so far without a single disagreement and in general we barely row at all, let alone about things so ridiculous.

OH did later apologise profusely later that day for laying down an ultimatum, as this has never been the dynamic of our relationship before. It makes me feel terribly sad because in my eyes this is detracting from what should really be important about our big day – the two of us saying our vows in an intimate setting with the people we really care about.

Fast forward another week and OH’s DM came to visit yesterday. I simply couldn’t face the Spanish inquisition about why DB’s girlfriend could only come to the evening do, so I spent the afternoon with my own parents instead to avoid a confrontation. When I came home OH was in a weird mood and it was obvious that something had been mentioned about it. As it stands, DB’s girlfriend is still not invited to the day do and I have no intention of being bullied into changing my mind. Today is the 5th anniversary of OH and I getting together and we’re supposed to be celebrating, but instead there is a tense atmosphere in the house. So am I being unreasonable or is OH? My family agree with me, his agree with him – objective opinions please!

OP posts:
SamBlackCrow · 19/08/2015 10:14

You are being massively unreasonable. I'd understand it if money or capacity was the issue but as it is you are just being cruel and stubborn. Sorry.

SamBlackCrow · 19/08/2015 10:15

You need to remember it's your fiance's wedding too...

IAmACat · 19/08/2015 10:17

YABU, I was somewhat understanding until you moaned about her being fat and pouting.

designedbynature · 19/08/2015 10:18

I would just invite her tbh, are you really unable to add another chair to the table of 9? or sit her and the DB on a friends table.

In years to come the seating plan won't be important, your marriage and relationship with your In Laws will be though.

Shutthatdoor · 19/08/2015 10:18

You are being massively unreasonable. I'd understand it if money or capacity was the issue but as it is you are just being cruel and stubborn. Sorry

I agree. It is your OH wedding too.

You also come across as quite judgy towards the gf tbh.

SavoyCabbage · 19/08/2015 10:19

Yabu. It's your fiancées brother you are talking about. Not the postman.

A wedding is supposed to be a happy occasion where two families come together and people have a nice time. Not a maths problem for table settings.

cardibach · 19/08/2015 10:19

I think you are, I'm afraid. One person you don't know very well at your wedding/in your pictures which you'll never look at again is a really mo if detail. I think most brides have family members/friends of their OH that they haven't really met before. I can't see why it makes a difference. The only genuine issue here is the seating - which I'm sure can be resolved.

Shutthatdoor · 19/08/2015 10:19

Oh and your snide comment about her weight is vile.

19lottie82 · 19/08/2015 10:21

YABU. You sound judgemental and snobby, sorry.

selsigfach · 19/08/2015 10:22

I wouldn't have wanted someone who'd only just come on the scene, and who's likely not to be by the time you're back from your honeymoon, in my wedding photos. MIL needs to butt out. Everything was organised while BIL was single and the tables are now full with people you know and love. random +1s can come I the evening, if they have to.

RunningUpThatHillAgain · 19/08/2015 10:22

Ok, perhaps I am BU - this is why I asked. FWIW, we are on a tight budget, so much so that only 2 people are coming from my family, there's already 11 coming from his. I've not invited many good friends of mine because of this.

You're right that the day is my fiance's as much as mine, but I feel I have already compromised a lot with the guest list and this feels like a compromise too far.

OP posts:
FuckyNell · 19/08/2015 10:22

Yabu. And a bit rude

DorotheaHomeAlone · 19/08/2015 10:22

It doesn't matter if you're right or not. Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?

You have space for her, your OH wants her there. That should be the end of it.

Btw it's totally normal to have fights in the month before. We scrapped about loads of stupid crap because we were stressed out and everything was suddenly cast in the light of 'and I'll be stuck with this behaviour forever once we're married'.

I recommend letting her come as an act of generosity and just moving on with your life. You'll barely notice her on the day.

Lj8893 · 19/08/2015 10:24

You sound like a nasty bridezilla and if I was her I wouldn't want to go to your wedding!

19lottie82 · 19/08/2015 10:24

Oh, and I forgot selfish!

SavoyCabbage · 19/08/2015 10:24

It isn't a compromise too far. This woman could be a member of your family for the rest of your life.

GameOfGroans · 19/08/2015 10:25

YABU! I completely agree with SamBlackCrow. Feel very sorry for your fiancé.

Wolpertinger · 19/08/2015 10:25

You are almost certainly right that DB will have split up with her in a couple of months. However you still have to invite her to the whole day. YABU.

On the day itself you'll be pretty busy talking to the people you do know. A quick hello will do and then you can forget she's there.

On the issue of photos - have photos of you and DH, you and DH with his siblings without partners, with partners, with each sibling + partner. All available for family to buy direct from photographer from their website. Just don't put the one with the offending partner in your wedding album. Simples.

If you hadn't been so awkward already it would have been much easier to say, yes of course she can come, I'd love for her to be there but I'm afraid I can't squeeze her on the top table at this late stage.

MrsGentlyBenevolent · 19/08/2015 10:28

I don't think yabu. Neither of you know her that well, that space could go to someone you do want there. You're quite right, not like they've been together long, or has it been shown it will last. She's not 'entitled' to an invitation in my opinion. Would she expect to bring her child as well?

jeronimoh · 19/08/2015 10:29

Gong to see your parents when your MIL to be visited was rude! Shock She must feel excluded from the plans. How far away does she live?

The brother has said he'll pay for his gf so let him.

Wolpertinger · 19/08/2015 10:29

However I have a lot of sympathy for you on the family front - I'm an only child and DH is one of 4 and one of our few big rows was over how many family guests we had to our small, tightly budgeted wedding. There was a strong overtone that my family wasn't as important as his because it was smaller - this gave me the utter screaming rage, as would your fiance's comment about you not understanding because you were an only child.

I think you do need to invite her but he needs to understand you have v few guests coming on your side which is a massive compromise on your part.

Welshmaenad · 19/08/2015 10:30

You sound horribly judgemental.

I was welcomed at a family wedding of DH's when we'd been together a WEEK. And I was fat.

MadHackedOffGnome · 19/08/2015 10:33

Yeah, you are BU. At the end of the day, this really isn't worth all the aggro and damage to relationships. The wedding is the start of you and your fiancée's families joining together in principle, so I wouldn't be letting this escalate.

If it makes you feel better, you probably won't even notice her there on the day, don't have to chat to her and don't have to have her in your wedding album.

AuntyMag10 · 19/08/2015 10:33

You come across as completely bitchy. You're making such a big deal about one person?? Your future bil gf/partnerConfused who cares what she weighs, how is that relevant. You were so rude to go out when his fm visited. This wedding shows you in a very ugly light, hope your fiancé thinks twice.

redexpat · 19/08/2015 10:33

YANBU to not want someone at your wedding that you barely know, and isnt as yet an established partner.

You are quite rude about her though, (although I completely agree about the pouting!) so you'll get flamed for that.

FWIW I think the invitation to the evening do is a good compromise, but people get really funny about weddings and what should and shouldnt be done. Especially on MN.

Your update about the balance of numbers would probably have been a better angle to go with in the OP.