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Tension with fiance over wedding guest list - who is BU?

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RunningUpThatHillAgain · 19/08/2015 10:12

I’m getting married next month and at the time of sending the invites in June, his youngest brother (26) was single. In the entire 5 years I have known him, he’s never had a girlfriend lasting more than a couple of months – I’ve seen him get attached extremely quickly then heartbroken when the girl ends it numerous times. He’s got a big heart, but very old-fashioned sensibilities such as wanting a woman to stay at home while he takes care of them, and TBH I think it’s scared them off. He’s never been diagnosed, but I strongly suspect he is on the autistic spectrum and he still lives at home with his parents. Not sure how much of that is relevant to my question but didn’t want to drip feed.

Anyway, a couple of weeks ago, he calls my OH asking whether his new “partner” of 2 months can come to our wedding – he said if money was the issue he would pay for her. OH and I talked it over and I said I wasn’t comfortable with this. If indeed she was his partner, not a new girlfriend it would be a different (OH has 3 other siblings who are either married or in long term relationships and they are naturally invited) but the cynic in me thinks in all likelihood the brother and his girlfriend might have split up by the wedding. OH and I have met her twice at family BBQs, but we never actually spoke to each other – she was preoccupied with her 18 month old son who OH’s DB sees as his own, even after such a short space of time. Being nosy, I had a look at her Facebook profile – it’s all duck-face pouts at that “flattering” angle to disguise the fact she is morbidly obese exactly the kind of photos that make me cringe.

So I gave OH the following reasons why I wasn’t comfortable with her coming to the day do:

  1. I have already confirmed the wedding breakfast seating plan with the venue and tables seat a max. of 9. There are already 9 people around OH’s family table and either 8 or 9 on other tables, meaning OH’s brother and his girlfriend would either have to sit separately or I would have to split up other families so they could sit together.
  2. I feel self conscious enough about walking down the aisle already without sharing this moment with people who mean nothing to me.
  3. I don’t want someone I barely know in the family wedding photos who in my eyes isn’t family especially if she is pouting

OH seemed to understand point 1, thought I was being daft about point 2 and didn’t get point 3 at all. As a compromise I suggested that she was welcome to come to the evening do instead. OH reluctantly accepted, phoned his DB and told him this, giving the reason that we were full to capacity for the day do (which strictly we’re not, but we wanted to spare DB’s feelings) However as OH came off the phone he had tears in his eyes and said he felt he had let his DB down, which he said I didn’t understand because I’m an only child. I could see his point, but felt that my reasons were equally valid.

I thought the matter was closed, until a week later when OH’s DM phoned him up saying she didn’t think he was right that DB’s girlfriend wasn’t invited to the day do because it was sending out a message that we weren’t accepting her as part of the family and “it’s ridiculous that you can’t squeeze her in”, etc. OH didn’t tell me about this phone call for several days, during which time he was subdued and I literally had to worm it out of him what the problem was. He said he’d realised that he agreed with his DM and that it was “mean spirited” of me not to want DB’s girlfriend there and he couldn’t believe I had it in me to be like that. I told him that I had confided in two friends and my parents about it and they completely saw my point of view. OH now seems to think the reason I don’t want her to be in the photos is because she is obese (which I stress is not the reason!) and this makes me a “horrible person”. A huge row ensued, him saying “if she’s not coming, the wedding’s off!” me standing my ground. I couldn’t believe the way he was reacting – we’ve managed to plan the entire wedding so far without a single disagreement and in general we barely row at all, let alone about things so ridiculous.

OH did later apologise profusely later that day for laying down an ultimatum, as this has never been the dynamic of our relationship before. It makes me feel terribly sad because in my eyes this is detracting from what should really be important about our big day – the two of us saying our vows in an intimate setting with the people we really care about.

Fast forward another week and OH’s DM came to visit yesterday. I simply couldn’t face the Spanish inquisition about why DB’s girlfriend could only come to the evening do, so I spent the afternoon with my own parents instead to avoid a confrontation. When I came home OH was in a weird mood and it was obvious that something had been mentioned about it. As it stands, DB’s girlfriend is still not invited to the day do and I have no intention of being bullied into changing my mind. Today is the 5th anniversary of OH and I getting together and we’re supposed to be celebrating, but instead there is a tense atmosphere in the house. So am I being unreasonable or is OH? My family agree with me, his agree with him – objective opinions please!

OP posts:
Icimoi · 20/08/2015 08:00

I think it's stretching things a bit to say that a girlfriend of two months is someone's partner, particularly when he has a track record of short term girlfriends. And I do think that when one side of the family already has 11 members there to the other side's 2, it's pretty unreasonable of them to make a fuss about asking someone else on their side who isn't even a member of the family.

VaultHunter · 20/08/2015 09:01

The op has already compromised by letting the flavour of the month come to the evening do.
The groom is a complete shit for saying "either she comes or the weddings off" he has tried to blackmail her and is letting his family bully her which he is doing too.
This is clearly a sign of things to come op.

Zampa · 20/08/2015 09:32

YANBU. You've compromised to a certain extent and I think most of your reasons are valid. However, if inviting the girlfriend makes the man you love happy, why not do it?

(Much laughter at the the pps calling OP a bitch and then saying they hope the fiancé leaves. Pot/kettle?).

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwiches · 20/08/2015 09:33

Sorry but YAB massively U and pretty judgemental. It's his brothers "friend" if you can't think of her as a partner and all the other siblings are partnered off, it makes an embarrassing point for him doesn't it. I think it would have been good mannered to ask him if he wanted to bring a friend in the first place.

GoblinLittleOwl · 20/08/2015 09:52

This whole thing has blown up out of all proportion and is overshadowing your wedding and setting your two families at odds. Neither of you seems prepared to compromise and it has now escalated into a family fight, with both sides joining in.

For what it is worth, I think it was rude of your prospective brother in law to demand an invitation for his girlfriend, but equally it is churlish of you to refuse to allow her to come; your reasons present as trivial and quite spiteful.

If you win this battle you may well lose the war. Is it worth sacrificing your future happiness in marriage, (far more important than guests at a wedding) for the sake of a compromise?

Give in gracefully, make sure everyone understands that you have done this for the greater good of The Family, and then assume the moral high ground.

StatisticallyChallenged · 20/08/2015 10:06

I don't think OP has been treated fairly when it comes to the guest list tbh. A formulaic approach doesn't work when the families are vastly different sizes.

DH's family is huge - he only has one sibling but his mum is one of seven, his dad one of three. All of these aunts and uncles have multiple adult children, and in many cases the children have children (both MIL and FIL are the youngest of their siblings). On the other hand my dad isn't on the scene, mum has 1 sibling, who in turn has 2 kids. I invited my cousins - DH side we stopped at aunties/uncles. He still had massively more guests than me but at least it was a little more balanced. If we'd done cousins on both sides plus partners then the family invite list for his side was about 100, mine was 9.

In her position I'd be digging my heels in too.

Janethegirl · 20/08/2015 10:27

With only 26 guests and the vast majority coming from the groom's family, I'd be digging my heels in too, especially as OP couldn't invite aunts and uncles she wanted.
YANBU as far as I'm concerned.

kali110 · 20/08/2015 11:02

Op i don't think yabu at all.
I think you posted wrong. I don't think you were actually making a dig about her weight but now that is all people will moan about.
I wouldnt invite someone id only met twice and who only been with someone 2 months!
If i were the gf i wouldn't expect an invite either.
When my bestfriend started booking her wedding id only just got with my dp. I told her not to invite him!
She hardly knew him and we didn't know if id still be with him when it were time for her wedding!
he weren't offended, he said he wouldn't expect an invitation.
Also horrified that people are accusing you of lying about having mental health problems!
I wouldn't just disclose that in a post if it wasn't relevant either.

Pico2 · 20/08/2015 12:05

I'm on the YANBU side here. It is relevant that is a small wedding and irrelevant that the BIL has offered to pay as the size of the wedding dictates how "far out the invitations go". You aren't selling places to the close friends you can't invite, so you're not selling one to your BIL for his current gf.

I'd be interested to know how short a relationship would have to be for the 'you should invite her' posters to agree that you shouldn't - 6 weeks, 4 weeks?

TerrorAustralis · 21/08/2015 03:54

irrelevant that the BIL has offered to pay

It is relevant when the OP keeps using budget as an excuse not to invite the GF.

TheCatsMother99 · 21/08/2015 08:27

YANBU.

I completely understand you not wanting someone you don't know in your photos, especially if you're having an intimate wedding and given his past history of short term relationships. I also think it's fair that she's been invited to the evening.

To be honest, if I was her, I wouldn't want to go to your wedding just because I don't know you & find it a bit odd that it's being pushed.

Tigger365 · 21/08/2015 08:42

I'm sorry, I'm posting as someone with the IL's from hell.
I don't think YABU, in fact I think you've tried to include the gf.
I actually think HTB is BVVVU. He's bullying you over someone he barely knows. I beg of you, please sit down and think about how this will translate further down the line, when you have DC for instance.

I was very lucky, DH made his feelings towards his bullying family very clear early on, I would be concerned that your HTB has picked a side, but it isn't yours.

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