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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To feel totally and utterly pissed off that she lied to me and upset my kids?

215 replies

LauraW83 · 01/07/2015 19:21

Hi I'm after a place to vent before I scream, it's about my husband's sister. Now before i start I just want to explain that I do like her but she's a complete nightmare and will regularly make plans and then bail, she says one things but does another, she is the most unorganised person ever and she has been known to stretch the truth on many occasions, never the less, my kids love her.

So a few months back she asked if she could take our 12yo Ds and 10yo Dd on holiday to South Wales for the first week of the summer holidays for four days (they've already broken up here) along with her three daughters who are of similar age to our kids as well as her friend and son too. I said yes this was fine as long as she didn't mind and our kids have been really looking forward to it.

They're due to go on Monday so I've text SiL yesterday to finalise everything, ie how much money they need to take, what clothes etc they need, and then she text me back last night saying that she doesn't think that they'll be able to go now!

I text her back asking why and she said that the hire car she was supposed to be renting she now can't have. She doesn't have her own car you see so she was going to hire one to take some of the kids, and her friend and then her mum (my MiL) had agreed to drive the rest of the kids down and then come back home and then pick them up again on the Friday, so everything was so called arranged.

But for the last few days I had a feeling that something would go wrong (it usually does with my SiL) and then comes the text from her. So I ask, why can't she have the car and she says that they won't let her hire it because she has six points on her licence! Now bearing in mind they go away in five days so it's kind of last minute (typical of SiL though) so you'd of thought that she would have already sorted the car out but no. Something didn't feel right as I've hired a car before with six points on my licence (speeding) and they never said it was a problem. So I sneakily asked her which company she was hiring it from and I phoned them, and guess what...? They told me that any person can hire a car from them if they have under 9 points on their licence, so she has blatently lied to me.

It took a while for the penny to drop and I asked myself why would she lie about something like that but then it dawned on me. You see me and Dh have a car each, we have to as I need one to take the kids to school and him for work etc. Anyhow she is always asking for lifts, asking us to "do her favours" asking can we squeeze one of her kids in etc etc and then it dawned on me, she either wanted my Dh to drive her to South Wales and back OR to borrow his car! She knew that Dh had booked off a long weekend from work and this is the only time this year we are going to get to enjoy some alone time, so she must of thought that he wouldn't need his car, so i genuinely feel that this was the plan all along and there was no rental car in the first place.

Now you see for some people they'd just lend her their car and it wouldn't be an issue especially if she's taking their kids on holiday but she has had four crashes in the last five or six years including totalling their older brother's car last year meaning it had to be written off so there's no way Dh would allow her to drive his car. And for him to drive there and back in one day would take 9 hours and then the same on the Friday, there's just no way he's doing that.

She didn't actually come out and ask to borrow our car but she was hinting at it ie "oh I'll just have to get the train there but it'll cost me over £300 for everyone so it'll mean the kids can't have as much on holiday now" "oh I'll find a car from somewhere" etc etc. By now I knew she had lied to me so I just said, oh I've spoken to my Dh and he said that you can hire a car from X as long as you have under 9 points on your licence and instead of defending herself (as she always does if she thinks she's right) she just said, oh ok I'll get sorted.

This was last night but I woke to a text this morning saying she's found another company that would hire her a car, but basically she told me and her kids told my kids over Facebook that they couldn't go, and she got them all upset for nothing. Too and bottom of it is she didn't want to shell out a few hundred quid on a hire car and expected a free lift off Dh even thought she knew this weekend was the first we'd had together in two years OR she wanted his car. Now if she had asked outright could she borrow it we'd of still said no but at least she'd of been honest and not lied. And before anyone calls me ungrateful as she's taking my kids away after all, I am actually very grateful, but I'm sick to death of nothing going to plan with her, sick of her dramas and sick of her lying. So tell me please, AIBU?

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LauraW83 · 01/07/2015 20:32

Oh for goodness sake, I got done in the same day u two separate cameras for doing 35mph nan 36mph in a 30 when I was racing to get my ds to hospital. I appealed tbe decision but it wasn't upheld and i ended up with not 3 points but 6. So don't you dare look down your nose at me, that was the first and last time I've ever been caught speeding, and usually don't condone it.

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AwfulBeryl · 01/07/2015 20:33

Op, I don't think yabu. Don't worry about the should have / of twat either, everyone knows what you mean, some people just like to stick the knife in.

I have taken my nephews away before, I did it because I wanted to, I wouldn't back track at the last me omens and expect my sil and bil to drive us all around, because it was my idea, I offered.

It's strange that she would do that, I can see why your annoyed.

LauraW83 · 01/07/2015 20:34

It's ok I'm used to it, I had it all my life at school, I just learnt to grow a thick skin, it doesn't bother me.

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AwfulBeryl · 01/07/2015 20:35

Oh no, look I used the wrong you're Blush
Quick, someone stick the boot in.

FlyingPirate · 01/07/2015 20:35

God, OP, you've had a rough ride on this. For what it's worth, YANBU at all. I have a sister who frequently lets my children down last minute. As a PP said, you quickly learn to not tell them until theyre knocking on the door.

I hope you get a break very soon. Everyone needs one from time to time.

Unfortunately this is often the nature of AIBU. The first few posters tend to set the tone and before you know it an all out bun fight has broken out. I promise most of the other areas of mumsnet are much more gentle!

AwfulBeryl · 01/07/2015 20:38

Aibu is awful, it really is.
Like pirate said, the first few posts set the tone, count yourself lucky you didn't get a row of Hmm or Confused faces, then you really would have been fucked.

LauraW83 · 01/07/2015 20:39

Thankyou:) To be honest I'm mad about the lying but I'm mad because this type of thing does happen with her. She expects so much of everyone including dh's parents and of me and Dh. We help out with her kids all the time which we're happy to, we drive her places if she needs a lift. Once I even drove her to London whilst she went for a job interview, it took us 12 hours in total due to traffic! I'll do anything for anyone but that's the thing, she knows this and she can take advantage sometimes, and I can't help but feel fed up of it, but like I said my DC adore her. x

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AwfulBeryl · 01/07/2015 20:44

I think as they get older they will learn to take everything she says with a pinch of salt, it's really upsetting now, but they will learn that lovely and fun as she is, she isn't always true to her word.
We have got bullshitters in our family too, I groan inwardly when they want to plan a day in / out somewhere because I know it will go wrong somehow and we will have to sort it out.

Fugghetaboutit · 01/07/2015 20:45

If you take it well, people will turn on your side a bit. If you fight them, it gets worse.

LauraW83 · 01/07/2015 20:50

That's exactly it. This year alone we've had loads of drama when we've tried to plan days out. First it was my dd 10th birthday in January, we booked a party for her and was only planning on one of us driving there. My neices were obviously invited so SiL booked a taxi, but then she said it disn't turn up then she didn't have the money to pay for one etc etc so Dh and I both had to drive and was almost late for the party as we had to pick her up on the way.

Then there was another cock up when we went to Alton towers together. She wasn't ready on time for starters then when we got there she had lost her booking reference then she told us that she had lair her purse on the way down so me and Dh had to pay for her and her kids dinner whilst we was there.

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AwfulBeryl · 01/07/2015 20:50
gamerchick · 01/07/2015 20:52

The more you allow her to take the piss the more she will OP. It's time to start saying no man.

monkeyfacegrace · 01/07/2015 20:55

Oh god, you lol'd. That's suicide right there, that is Wink

And OP you're fine. Bunch of bleedin grumpy arses on this thread.

AllThatGlistens · 01/07/2015 20:58

Oh for fucks sake people, lay off Hmm

Read the OPs posts before piling in, eh? Her SIL isn't driving the kids.

LauraW83 · 01/07/2015 20:58

Lol I think you're right it must be the heat lol. I jus don't think I'm being unreasonable for wanting things to go as planned for once, for my SiL and everyone to go off as planned, for everyone to have a good time and for me and Dh to be able o grab some alone time for a few HOURS, not days lol.

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AwfulBeryl · 01/07/2015 20:59

Grin I missed the lol, they don't like text speak round here op. The vipers also hate nicknames with numbers in them, not too sure why they're not en trend Confused you didn't stand a chance op. Wine

paulapompom · 01/07/2015 21:03

Ok I think YaNbu. It's all the last minute messing and palava that is stressing you. I'm sure your oh could and would do the driving/lend the car IF that was the arrangement. Personally I would have been annoyed that it got so close to the hol and she just sent a casual reply that it was off. And then lied about why. She sounds kind but a nightmare. Don't worry about spelling, and have theseFlowers

Viviennemary · 01/07/2015 21:06

Just forget about this shared holiday. If you can't trust her to drive your car she isn't a safe driver and therefore not a fit person to drive your children anywhere. So others were going to make the journey up and down the country but not you. It all seems a bit of a mess. Just arrange your own holiday in future.

IUseAnyName · 01/07/2015 21:06

What a stupid holiday to organise in the 1st place!.... Why on earth does she think it's acceptable to have your mil drive back and forth from scotland to s wales?.... Why didn't she just book somewhere closer to home, or not invite so many kids in the 1st place!

LauraW83 · 01/07/2015 21:07

Well yeah to be honest if she'd of asked a few weeks ago to drive them down and dh got the day off then you know what we'd of done it no problem, we'd of probably stopped and made a day of it before driving home. But she didn't do this and now we've made plans and we've paid extra money for ds to stay at nursery, plus the fact she chose to lie to us instead of being upfront.

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kewtogetin · 01/07/2015 21:08
  1. I think you might be better off on Netmums. Youll get all the 'awwww Hun big hugz' you're obviously after on their.
  2. I think you're actually angry at yourself, for pinning all your hopes of a nice weekend with just your DH on this flakey SIL.
You know she's unreliable, a shit driver etc etc yet you went ahead and told your children about the holiday, made plans with DH KNOWING she would let you down at the last minute. So I suggest if you want to blame anyone you need to look a little closer to home.
cees · 01/07/2015 21:13

YADNBU

I can also see why you are annoyed, who wouldn't be. Sil has form and its not the first time she has let you down so yes I would be annoyed and more angry that she's fecked about with excited kids, letting them get their hopes up and then her children telling them they can't come.

For anyone who hasn't highlighted opening posts could you sign in then go into customise (beside Talk on the upper left of screen) scroll down to highlight and choose a colour, it's much easier to follow the op's that way.

AccordingToOurRecords · 01/07/2015 21:16

Your post was fine OP, I understood it perfectly. Your Sil is a pain in the bum and you are cross because, this time, her lies and pissing about upset your kids. Perfectly understandableSmile

paulapompom · 01/07/2015 21:16

I don't know if ok wants hugz and Huns - I'm not psychic, but i think she would want people

1 Read the thread
2 Not pick on spelling and grammar
3 loosen their judgey pants (if worn)

LauraW83 · 01/07/2015 21:17

I'm not blaming myself for anything actually as I haven't done anything wrong, and for what it's worth I wasn't pinning my hopes on anything. Me and Dh were looking forward to a few measley hours to do our own thing but We've had practically zero help with ds since he was born almost five years ago so it would just be a usual day/night if we could go out and that's fine, honestly.

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