I fought with the school to let my child start in nappies...

[Piratejones]

And now 3 years later, we have reached a point where he is dry in the day in places he knows and semi reliable outside the home. They are getting funny because i DON'T want him in a nappy during a school trip.

I can't win, it's a fucking joke. up until now they've been pushing to get rid of the nappies, he starts showing some improvement and they don't want the responsibility of taking spare clothes.

It makes me angry.

MrsLeelemon, you are in danger of spouting the same shitty opinions as a complete and utter cunt.
Just in case you hadn't noticed...

MistressDeeCee

Piratejones has been here years, She has made many many posts about her child.

I actually thought this issue was about a DC in a mainstream school, with no SN.

Using common sense, how likely is it based on the OP that this was the case, at school for at least 3 years, in nappies.

So what if it was a NT child in a mainstream school?
I can't see how that would make any difference TBH.
Every school has a duty to meet the needs of every pupil. If a teacher doesn't want to do that they shouldn't be a teacher.

Fwiw I think people who can't be arsed to read every post on a thread yet still feel a need to post on it are self-important cunts. Its like walking into a group of people half way through a conversation, making a comment about something they heard 20 minutes ago, and walking off again.

I also think only posting on threads one has read it is a useful way to not make a twat of oneself.

The disabilist comments on this thread are breathtaking.
OP I hope you get this sorted.

No they have the right to a mainstream education.

The laws on education presumes every child will have a mainstream education. Generally speaking parents need to fight tooth and nail to get a place in a special school even when the need is massive.

Please don't put Additional Needs in speech marks.
It makes you look a right twat.

It makes you look a right twat.

Name calling now are we?

I'm don't know if we are.
I'm not.
Just passing on a helpful tip.

Piratejones Put him in a nappy and hope he uses it a lot.
...Justice....

MrsLeelemon I would venture to say you need to educate yourself a bit more about this subject, as you are way way off base here.

www.mumsnet.com/campaigns/this-is-my-child

Oh great another thread full of abhorrent views

MrsLeelemon - you are being completely ridiculous and very offensive. Children with all kind of additional needs, mental and physical, will be present in all schools and have the right to have their needs met. If those include toileting then so be it.

The OP's child has a 1:1 - part of their job will be to help him with his toileting so it shouldn't impact on anyone else anyway. If the school are using the 1:1 to supervise other children then that is wrong. The 1:1 is there for that child only.

Schools work with children. Children wet themselves. That's a fact of life. It might only happen to a child once in their school career but, for teachers who see hundreds of children through their classroom in a career, it's not some shocking and unknown occurrence.

My oldest daughter was terrible for it. She has a range of mental health difficulties that include anxiety and OCD and I lost count of the number of very public and embarrassing accidents she had. Right up to the age of 10. Yet she's a totally NT child and a high academic achiever - should she be in a special school because she wets her pants?! (I realise this is hyperbole but that is what your point, taken to its logical conclusion, appears to be).

Teachers employed under School Teachers' Pay and Conditions (Burgundy Book) cannot be expected or compelled to change a child. Other staff can be.

Teachers can voluntarily change a child. If they do not, or do not instruct another member of staff to do so, they/the school can be seen as negligent in their duty of care.

I think (hope!) the " " around additional needs are because the OP wrote it like that to indicate that the needs are unknown. Other posters are probably just copying her description of her son's needs.

Do you have any evidence to back up your claims of all these lazy parents just not bothering to toilet train their children?

MistressDeeCee
The school sound as if they're trying, doing their best in the circumstances. Its no as if they're refusing to deal with your DC is it OP. You seem unprepared to meet them halfway and actually sound quite dictatorial, and hard work.

I'm not sure you've read my OP let alone the rest of the thread. It has nothing to do with them "refusing to deal with your DC". And for your information it is main stream school, social services picked it as i wanted to homeschool at first but they needed the extra safety net of a school.
But this has nothing to do with my posts on this thread.

TalisaStark
Have they told you it's because they "don't want the responsibility of taking spare clothes"?

No i got a letter Thursday mentioning it, along with other things they've covered in the risk assessment. He doesn't go to school on Fridays so i've seen no-one anyone yet.

MrsLeeLemon
I understand, it means hypothetically, if someone didn't want to potty train their precious little prince and sent him to school in a nappy he would be classed as having additional needs right off the bat.

This exactly is what i did! How did you know?

We need an [eyeroll] Smiley

why would someone not want to toilet train their child ?honestly life would be so much easier if i could toilet train my son i dont think anyone would choose not to toilet train their school aged child there is big differance between not wanting to and not being able to and MrsLeelemon you are being extremely rude and downright offensive!