I fought with the school to let my child start in nappies...

[Piratejones]

And now 3 years later, we have reached a point where he is dry in the day in places he knows and semi reliable outside the home. They are getting funny because i DON'T want him in a nappy during a school trip.

I can't win, it's a fucking joke. up until now they've been pushing to get rid of the nappies, he starts showing some improvement and they don't want the responsibility of taking spare clothes.

It makes me angry.

Great for your friend. But not every child is like your friends.

DS is autistic and was easy to potty train, that doesn't mean that is the same for all children with autism though. Same with your friends child.

A child not being potty trained when they start school isn't ideal, I doubt any parent likes that but sometimes it is life and nothing will change that. To stop a child from accessing mainstream education based Soley on that would be an awful decision and discrimination.

Bloody hell
I might be tempted to tell you to fuck off but that would be against guidelines so I'll just pop up the link to This Is My Child here you go

we should have schools that will help when children do not know the basics, like potty training.

Where on earth are all these ''special'' schools going to be? And who is going to pay for them??

There's not enough money for most children in mainstream schools with additional needs to have any 1:1 care as it is, let alone whole 'basic training' schools.

we should have schools that will help when children do not know the basics

We have them, they are just called Schools.

good for your friend unfortunatley my son isnt ready to train yet thankfully he goes to a special needs school though so we dont have to listen top your kind of judgemental crap every day! you are aware arent you that children with additional needs just like NT children are all different so just because your friend could toilet train her child with downs syndrome before he started school some kids like my son are not developmentally ready?

Please don't put Additional Needs in speech marks.
It makes you like a right twat.

The school sound as if they're trying, doing their best in the circumstances. Its no as if they're refusing to deal with your DC is it OP. You seem unprepared to meet them halfway and actually sound quite dictatorial, and hard work.

I wouldn't work in a nursery/school for love nor money, much respect to staff/teachers trying to do a good and rewarding job whilst dealing with particular parents who think they and their child's needs transcend all others, and even when you're trying your best in the circumstances its just not good enough, and never will be

Randall - I don't think it's just the speech marks which do that!

i imagine the vast majority of kids dont start school in nappies if they do its not because they are stubborn or their parents cant be arsed its because they have medical issues and or special needs a school cant refuse to take a child in nappies and they have make provision to make sure the childs toileting needs are met whilst in school thats just the way its is !

your a delight arnt you MrsLeelemon.

It isn't the "teachers job" to give DS 2 different medicines at school every day, or to watch him to see if he needs extra. They do it though and without that he couldn't go to school.

A teachers/teaching assistants job is about much more than just the education side of things. It's about the whole child and understanding what is needed to help the individual child meet their potential.

I very much doubt many (or any) parents think "ah I will carry on buying nappies and not bother toilet training my child and let school do it"

Okay pretty upsetting reading so I am off. Sorry to abandon thread.

dont be ridiculous apart from the extortionate cost of nappies do you really think parents want to send there kids to school in nappies ? my child stands out enough already!

I've never understood this logic...

So you think a parent changing a childs nappy is more lazy than the parent not having to do anything and the child using a toilet him/her self?

How does that work?

as i said my son goes to a special needs school but at my older sons mainstream school,there is one child in the whole school in nappies he has a diagnosis of global development delay and a statement it is not common for kids to start school in nappies and if they do its because of other issues not lazy parents!

Op you are right to question this,insomnia like the school can't be bothered but as you say he already wears the absorbable pads jean change himself, so those or maybe a pull up if your son wants would be fine.

They have a duty of care and it's not acceptable to output back in nappies because they don't want to deal with his extra needs especially as he is doing so well, why kind of message are they giving.him if they put him in nappies for their convenience?

I have reported the disablist comments on this thread, some poeple don't have a clue.

What an utterly cuntish opinion.

What about the child who is neurotypical, but has damage to the nerves controlling the bowel. Should they take a valuable place at a special school, just because they can't reliably be expected not to shit themselves?

That is my son.

Fortunately his mainstream school arE OK about it. Not brilliant, we had to be pretty firm with them at the start but they are getting better. I would dearly love to be able to 'just toilet train' him. But it won't happen.

Because carrying wipes, change mat, nappies, spare clothes, around for a 6yo is laziness, isn't it.

Some of you recent posters really need to read the thread, (although a bit more info in the op would have been helpful)

Sounds like he's making great progress OP & hope you can get the school to come round to your way of thinking & hope he enjoys the trip :)

Oh MrsLeelemon.
It's hard to think outside your own tiny little world isn't it.