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AIBU to not understand why anyone can vote Labour?

212 replies

strawberrysalsa · 30/04/2015 18:47

Never mind the fact that they destroyed the economy, never mind the fact that they are joining up with the SNP & never mind the fact that their only policy is to make whatever promises will get them into power...if they do get into power we get Ed Miliband as Prime Minister!

This is the man who failed to eat a bacon sandwich, who sniffs peoples hair on TV, who has 2 kitchens in a £3 million house and talks about poverty! This is the man who redid his fathers will to reduce inheritance tax yet bangs on, endlessly, about tax avoidance. This is the man who though talking to Russell Brand was the way to help him appeal to the 'yoof'. This is the man who stabbed his brother in the back to become leader of the Labour Party.

Okay there are other reasons I fail to understand why anyone would vote Labour, North Staffordshire NHS, Rotherham Council and so one. But realistically its the embarrassment I'm going to feel on May 8th when he's gurning outside 10 Downing Street!

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ratsintheattic · 01/05/2015 07:37

Just you first sentence tells me you are not a rational person. Labour caused a global financial crisis? What crap. But then, I can't understand how anyone with an ounce of humanity can bring themselves to vote Conservative.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 01/05/2015 07:46

Well labour didn't cause the financial collapse but they failed to see that we were in the boom years.

They allowed spending to get out if control when they should have been saving it.

Of course government spending is higher under the coalition than under labour. What do you think it will look like when you compare one governments record over the boom years with another's record over a recovery?

AIBU to not understand why anyone can vote Labour?
Kampeki · 01/05/2015 07:50

They allowed spending to get out if control when they should have been saving it.

But when, the Tories said at the time that they were going to match Labour's public spending commitments. So by your logic, they would have overspent just as badly?

Mousefinkle · 01/05/2015 07:57

Because the alternatives are sooo much better Hmm.

You'd have to hold my children at gunpoint to get me to vote right. That sounds extreme but it's true. I've said many'a times that the day I start leaning to the right is the day I'm losing my marbles Grin. So I have two other choices and that's lib dem or Green Party.

I've voted lib dem my whole adult life, last election I even preached to others to do the same. Never have I been so embarrassed or furious as when Cleggy sold his soul to the devil and paired up with them. So they've lost my vote (and respect) certainly for the foreseeable future. I agree with most of Green's policies but I accept they're a bit away with the fairies and completely idealistic plus I've heard what's happened in Brighton since Caroline Lucas became MP and that's disappointing... They're a bit of a dream party really, if I could dream up a perfect government it would probably be them but it's not realistic in the harsh, mean world we live in. So labour is what's left! Or spoiling my paper which is a pointless exercise.

If Blair were still in power I would have to vote Green. I quite like Ed though. He comes from fairly humble beginnings, he's got socialist qualities about him and I just think he's become the tabloid whipping boy. He's no more weird than the rest of us! And if you think his bacon sandwich eating was messy you should see me eating citrus fruit Grin.

Fuckup · 01/05/2015 08:02

Are you 10 op? or just extremely Ill educated about politics?

All governments have fucked up at 1 time or another, but you cannot pin the global financial crisis on labour. Even if you could (which you can't) , this is a different government under a new leadership.

Can't eat a bacon sandwich?? Are you seriously basing your vote on this kind of juvenile red top crap, or is this an ill advised unfunny joke?

If we don't vote labour we'll get Tories in one capacity or another, and I am disgusted by them atm. They've raged a class war against the most vulnerable groups within society, the disabled, the homeless, immigrants, the under 25s, those on benefits, and to top it all the rich have got richer under their leadership. We're looking at a broken and fragmented society, maybe you don't care,maybe you're already rich? but inequality doesn't just hurt those it oppresses, it increases crime, reduces life expectancy, reduces the standard of education for all, and overall negatively impacts upon the quality of life and social cohesion. Do you want this society to look like america? with pockets of deprivation and crime spilling out into nice middle class neighborhoods?

Do you know that the Tory government have gone against all economic theory about alleviating recession? Their ideologically driven, rather than educated, decisions about the economy mean that we'll be years getting out of a hole that we could have been out of by now.

These are the issues we should be considering, this is what matters, not who can eat a bacon sandwich for fucks sake Angry

FYI I'm a floating voter with four parties I have supported in one capacity or another, so not angry purely from a labour voter perspective, but your post is annoying. You have the right to vote for whoever you want even ukip but don't make a mockery of democracy with idiotic, tabloid driven bullshit.

strawberrysalsa · 01/05/2015 08:02

many thanks to everyone who took the time to post on the thread.

Its been fascinating to read. Obviously its not a great forum for considered debate or long arguments debating each point but its clearly shown how a lot of people decide to vote.

Sorry to those of you who are ardent Labour supporters but Ed Miliband's performance on Question Time last night showed again, I felt, how ill equipped he is to be Prime Minister.

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WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 01/05/2015 08:03

kampeki I'm not a Tory voter, and there's a good chance they wouldn't have stuck to the pledge. There is a good chance the Tories would have fucked up in either the same way or a different way (probably cut benefits and raise taxes).

There's been a huge failure of honesty for years and years. The electorate wants the good times now
Back in the 2000s no party would have got in if they offered less than labour. We all thought we could afford huge spending - should have listened to Vince Cable

TheBookofRuth · 01/05/2015 08:11

Because I vote for the party not the person, and the Labour Party still has more policies I agree with than any of the others.

Dawndonnaagain · 01/05/2015 08:27

Obviously its not a great forum for considered debate or long arguments debating each point but its clearly shown how a lot of people decide to vote.
Because eating a bacon sandwich and supposedly stabbing your brother in the back are points for considered debate?
Hmm

FeijoaSundae · 01/05/2015 08:28

Your very own OP set the tone, did it not...

DoraGora · 01/05/2015 08:31

Quite right, OP. I think someone who quotes from Benny Hill, really, really bad TV ads and the muppet show, in PMQs, sets a much better standard. Do give me a ring when you're starting your politics lecture tour. I'll be right over.

TheSultanofPing · 01/05/2015 09:03

Well after reading some of the brilliant posts on this thread Op, I would say it is a great forum for political debate.
Your contribution maybe not so much...sorry.

ollieplimsoles · 01/05/2015 09:13

Read some good points on this thread! Its just made me really want a bacon sandwich!

slicedfinger · 01/05/2015 09:16

I think I may video myself eating a bacon roll, just to see if I manage any better.

OP yabvu. But you know that.

SunnyBaudelaire · 01/05/2015 09:22

you wouldnt vote for someone because he 'failed to eat a bacon sandwich'? for real?
call me over sensitive but does his perceived Jewishness bother you at all? Honestly?

ElectraCute · 01/05/2015 09:28

OP, you are a card. If you want intelligent, reasoned debate, with ''politics nerds" like you Hmm how about starting a thread about something other than hair-sniffing?

alreadytaken · 01/05/2015 09:30

if you cant understand why someone can vote for a party other than the one you favour you are too dim to have a vote.

I could not vote for a party funded by those who created an economoic crisis so they could gather more wealth. I couldnt vote for a party that said they wouldnt increase VAT - and then promptly did so. I couldnt vote for a party that promised no top down reorganisation of the NHS - and introduced one that threatens its existence. I couldnt vote for a party that would abolish all support for the sick and disabled if it thought it could get away with it.

I can understand the selfish motives that prompt people to vote for the nasty party but they deserve to be called that. I can even believe that there are a few misguided people who actually think they can improve the lot of everyone by promoting inequality - but they don't understand economics.

SunnyBaudelaire · 01/05/2015 09:30

" Obviously its not a great forum for considered debate "

obviously not, lol.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 01/05/2015 09:53

What's him (Ed Milliband) running the country got to do with how he eats a bacon sandwich. Maybe I'm missing something.
I admire Ed's honesty.( Wow the word honesty next to a polictician, something even in my wildest dreams I never thought I'd see never mind type.)
He's not telling people what he thinks they want to heAr.
As he says he wants to be the first to under promise and over deliver rAther than over promise and under deliver.
He's probably got loads of ideas but he's keeping them to himself until last he's certain he can pull them off.

JohnCusacksWife · 01/05/2015 09:56

I'm voting tactically for Labour in a (probably futile) attempt to keep out the SNP. In my constituency it would be a wasted vote to vote Tory or Lib Dem so this is my least worst option. Although if Labour win I'll feel awful!

Tanith · 01/05/2015 09:58

Well, given that your OP is made up of lies, I suppose we shouldn't be surprised that you can't understand it.

Educate yourself about them, ignoring the scaremongering, and you might understand a bit better.

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 01/05/2015 10:02

Shit, you're right. What if there's an EU summit and Ed Milliband exhibits poor bacon sandwich eating skills?

BakewellSlice · 01/05/2015 10:03

Benefit sanctions.

That's why I'm voting Labour.

Beloved72 · 01/05/2015 10:05

Michael Gove was on Radio 4 a couple of days ago.

He said that the Conservatives have reduced inequality, decreased child poverty, and increased the incomes of the poorest people in the country.

Hmm Hmm Hmm

I shall be voting Labour. Again.

Samcro · 01/05/2015 10:12

good god
what a liar

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