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To ask friend not to bring her DS to our family-friendly garden party?

342 replies

CaspianSea · 12/04/2015 17:46

At end of May DH and I are having a party to celebrate our new home. Weather permitting it will be mainly outdoors as we have big garden with outdoor lighting, and a covered patio area. We're thinking BBQ, drinks, fairy lights and lanterns in trees etc and will be inviting friends to bring tents and sleep over if they want to. So not a formal party but relaxing and fun with a 'magical' feel. It's a lovely garden with water features and mature trees, plus a swing, great for kids. Many of our friends have kids, some don't, we're happy for kids to come. We don't mind a bit of noise, boisterous play, tree-climbing etc provided parents keep control. What I don't want is the garden getting trashed or me and DH having to keep an eye on kids if people let them go wild.

Most of our friends' kids are well-behaved. The problem is one of my close friends. She has a 6-yr-old DS who is very loud, rude and obnoxious. He does not have SEN though he's been assessed at school due to behaviour problems and bullying other kids. My friend laughs off his behaviour and says he is 'a livewire'. He's the apple of her eye and she's very indulgent of his behaviour, saying he is 'a bit different'. For the past 4 years, every time we meet up with them he causes some kind of scene. He is always shouting, yelling and screeching indoors though my friend feigns deafness (last week he was repeatedly hitting her over head with a balloon whilst shouting, she just ignored him and carried on her conversation). Last time they came to our house he trampled my flowers, kicked a dent in rabbit hutch, let my rabbits escape then chased them with a stick he'd snapped off tree Shock and was generally nasty to the other kids present, pushing and shoving them and spitting on the smaller kids. He also went into our bedroom and bounced on bed. My friend shrugged it off and apart from a few mild attempts to get him to calm down, seemed to think it was ok for him to tear around shrieking for hours, so loudly nobody could enjoy the day. Every time we go to their house he has some kind of meltdown if he doesn't get his own way, and Ive lost count of times he's had tantrums in cafes. Once his dad lost patience and smacked him (for throwing food at lady on next table) and my friend told off her husband in front of everyone and made him apologise to his own son for smacking him! Her husband is very meek and downtrodden.

I can't not invite my friend to pastry and I'm happy for her DD to come, but I know her DS will ruin the party and upset other people's children. AIBU to ask her to leave DS with his grandma for the eve?

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softlysoftly · 12/04/2015 17:49

YANBU but just don't expect her to be your friend anymore.

FWIWI just wouldn't invite her at all as she doesn't sound like someone you actually like if her parenting is crap and her DH abused!

HappyGoLuckyGirl · 12/04/2015 17:49

Well you're NBU to ask her that but it would telling her your feelings towards her child and I can't imagine it will go down well.

wowfudge · 12/04/2015 17:49

Well I think if you do that she will ask you why you have singled out her child to be excluded and it will potentially be the end of the friendship. But it doesn't sound as though you like her very much anyway.

SycamoreMum · 12/04/2015 17:49

I wouldn't invite her at all. Best to just leave her with her little Tazmanian.

binspin · 12/04/2015 17:50

Your friend sounds like an idiot.

Yabu, invite the whole family or none of them. Your friend needs to sort out her parenting skills.

Snowberry86 · 12/04/2015 17:50

Yep sorry!

I feel your pain, but you can't allow other children and exclude this one!

Could you "accidentally" book it on a weekend that your friend can't make?

Bowerby · 12/04/2015 17:50

I can see why you'd want to - but I don't see how you can. There's no way of phrasing it that can hide the message "I don't like your child and he's not welcome in my house" - which I think most mothers would take exception to.

CaptainAnkles · 12/04/2015 17:51

As above - I don't blame you for not wanting him there, but I hope you don't treasure your friendship too much because I suspect it might be over. I can't imagine that she'll take this as a wake up call that she should start putting her foot down with his bad behaviour, she's more likely to take offence at the criticism.

KipperTheFish · 12/04/2015 17:51

Do not expect to still be friends with her if you do.

TheWhiteRoad · 12/04/2015 17:52

Her DS sounds very difficult but I really don't think you can invite his parents and sister but exclude him. It's beyond rude.

TBH, I would not invite the family at all. If they ask you can tell them why.

Summerisle1 · 12/04/2015 17:52

You can certainly ask her but don't assume that your friendship will survive from that point onwards. Especially as you are asking her to bring a favoured child and leave an anti-social one behind. That'll go down very badly indeed!

Perhaps better not to invite friend in the first place.

KirstyJC · 12/04/2015 17:52

Don't invite her at all. You can't do one child and not the other, just don't do any of that family at all.

If she asks, just say that her DS seemed a bit stressed last time and you were worried he might have got a bit overwhelmed with the party and think it would be better for him to visit when there aren't so many people there.

margaritasbythesea · 12/04/2015 17:52

Only if you don't want her as a friend any more.

Marcipex · 12/04/2015 17:53

What everyone else has said.
She won't remain your friend. Do you care?

Marmaladedandelions · 12/04/2015 17:53

the issue isn't the child, it's her parenting of the child.

Incidentally I have apologised to my own son when I smacked him. I lost my temper and shouldn't have done it so not sure why the shock!

Coffeethrowtrampbitch · 12/04/2015 17:53

I don't think you will be able to ask her to leave her ds. From what you have described, she doesn't see his behaviour as a problem. If she comes to your party and sees children there when her ds isn't, she will know you have excluded him and she's likely to be angry with you, and maybe even argue with you during your party.

I wouldn't invite her if you want a good time no matter how good a friend she is. It is her fault her ds behaves like this because she doesn't discipline him. Someone who is willing to let their child grow up getting into trouble constantly instead of being responsible and teaching him how to behave isn't a nice person, no matter how nice they seem.

bigTillyMint · 12/04/2015 17:53

I don't think you can invite her without him if other children will be there. Just don't invite them at all.

Aeroflotgirl · 12/04/2015 17:54

I totally agree with you, unless its a child free party, which it is not, you cannot not invite him. You might just have to not invite her, that is the consequence of bad parenting, that you don't get invited to things as much.

emotionsecho · 12/04/2015 17:54

You can ask but I expect it will go down like a lead balloon. Is your friendship strong enough to withstand you doing this and explaining why?

letscookbreakfast · 12/04/2015 17:54

Don't invite the entire family, inviting everyone apart from the kid will just complicate things.

queentroutoftrouts · 12/04/2015 17:54

I don't see the need for the extra Info about your new house, stealth boast much?! You want your guests to camp in your garden ConfusedShock. Go ahead YANBU but just don't expect her to still be your friend or ever speak to you again.

DioneTheDiabolist · 12/04/2015 17:55

Don't invite her. She's not going to come once you tell her that her DS isn't welcome anyway, so just don't invite her.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 12/04/2015 17:55

YWNBU, however, expect to lose her friendship..

mayfridaycomequickly · 12/04/2015 17:56

I would leave the whole family out - I'd also be honest if they asked why. 'We didn't ask because last time your ds did / broke x, y and z at our house without being chastised and I don't want anything wrecking at the new house'

MrsItsNoworNotatAll · 12/04/2015 17:56

Hmmm tough one. How much do you value your friendship with her? If he's as bad as you say I wouldn't want him there either. I wouldn't invite her at all to be honest but then if you do you're going to be on edge with him there.

Think I'd just not invite her.