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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not want this mother at DD's birthday party

216 replies

Jomato · 28/11/2014 22:36

When my DD was born i went along to a baby group at the suggestion of an acquaintance who had a baby at the same time as me. I had not intended to get a group of "mum" friends but gradually a group developed and we have spent quite a bit of time together over the last 3 years. The group is 12 children, some of whom spend more time together than others. It's always been quite relaxed with no major personality clashes.

One of the children was diagnosed about a year ago with some quite significant developmental needs. His father decided to take part in a sporting event in aid of a charity they are being supported by. The mother messaged us all as a group to let us know and ask us if we would like to sponsor him.

I did not respond directly as I had already made a decision that we are not in a financial position to be sponsoring at the moment. I didn't discuss this with her as I did not feel i should need to discuss my finances with her. However she is aware of our circumstances (i am the main wage earner, about to go on maternity leave, DH works for minimum wage on a 0 hours contract, in the middle of a house move etc etc).

Prior to the event she sent a reminder within a group message to all those who had not yet sponsored, this specifically named those who had not sponsored to the full group of 12. Following the event she sent an individual text message again asking for a donation. I was uncomfortable with this and did not respond as i really did not know how. She then sent a message every day for the four days prior to donations closing reminding me that I had not yet donated. Again I did not respond as I felt harassed and uncomfortable.

The day after she gave the cheque to the charity i had a long ranting message telling me that I was the only person in all their friends and family who had not donated and that this was very unsupportive. She told me that I would no longer be welcome at any events at her home and that my DD would not be welcome at her DS's birthday party (to which she had already been invited). I sent a text back trying to salvage the friendship but she had clearly already decided.

This obviously makes things quite awkward for me although a lot of the group are not currently aware. I told one of the group as when I received the text i was quite upset.

My DD is going to be sharing a birthday party with this friends DD and we had a discussion today about invitations. I had assumed that my friend would that I would feel very uncomfortable having this person, who does not even wish to make eye contact with me, at my DD's party. She had assumed that we would still invite child and parent and she is reluctant to get involved. I said that I am happy to send the mother a text explaining that this is my decision and my friend is simply honouring my wishes. She is going to think about this.

I understand her point of view (although I will admit to feeling a tiny bit put out that she has told me that she does not feel i did anything wrong but still expects me to tolerate this person so as not to rock the boat) but i really can't stand the thought of having this person there.

Sorry for the essay but would I be unreasonable to say to my friend that i really can't go ahead with the joint party if she insists we invite this child?

OP posts:
Jomato · 29/11/2014 09:50

Thanks to all for your input. For a first AIBU I've found it a really helpful way to clear up my thoughts about the whole situation. We will invite the child, I will smile and be polite, I will be keeping my distance from now on though.

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GoodKingQuintless · 29/11/2014 09:51

Your friend has been pestering you, but you have been rude and unsupportive. I dont understand why you could not just have text her back and say "sorry the donation is so small, only £5 but it is all I can do right now, as we have so many big expenses coming up. Promise I will be more forthcoming in future. I am so sorry my donation is so small as I know how much you are doing for X and how worrying it is for you". Or something to that effect.

I would not have acted as that mum, but if you could not even acknowledge her messages, I am not surprised she is cutting you off.

Did you really not foresee that your behaviour could affect the group dynamics and your own position in the friendship group? Her child is not well, how navel gazing can you get??

sugarman · 29/11/2014 09:54

I think you have been very mean to ignore your friend at a time when she needed support. You are not much of a friend and you need to stick with other self absorbed people, not share parties or anything that isn't totally about you.

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 29/11/2014 10:00

sugarman and GoodKing seriously! Hmm

I think you're being very magnaminous OP, there's no way in hell I'd have her at my child's party if she'd treated me that way.

MrsDeVere · 29/11/2014 10:01

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KatieKaye · 29/11/2014 10:04

And this is what is wrong with texting to solicit donations. The texted can't be bothered to actually take the effort to talk to people face to face and retreats behind technology to hassle. OP chose not to respond to the first text and it should have been left at that.
There was no obligation to respond to an invitation to give money. I don't understand why so many people think she should have given even a token pin when she explained her financial circumstances.

Jomato · 29/11/2014 10:05

Thank you Mrs DeVere, any of those things I would have done and have offered in the past. I've also offered emotional and practical support as I work in a related area so was in a good position to give support in that way. Do people honestly think if she were raising money for treatment my response would have been the same??

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GoodKingQuintless · 29/11/2014 10:06

MrsDevere, I dont think anybody is really projecting this womans actions to others and generalize.

I think OP was rude not to respond at all.

MokunMokun · 29/11/2014 10:14

I don't think the other mum has behaved reasonably at all but what is done is done and if the OP wants to remain friends with this friendship circle then not inviting her daughter to the joint birthday party is just going to make her look petty and mean spirited. They need to find a way forward from this or move on and find different friends. It wasn't fair to put the mutual friend in the middle like that which is what the OP is asking.

I had a big falling out with a woman in my friendship circle. It hasn't been easy but what can you do? We still attend lunches together and try not to make things awkward for the others.

Nydj · 29/11/2014 10:15

Exactly what MrsDeVere said. Well done OP for deciding to be gracious and inviting the woman and her child.

Sallystyle · 29/11/2014 10:19

Sugarman FFS. Op has said over and over again that she now realises she acted badly by not sending a text. She has also decided to not put mutual friend in a bad position and let the other mum come along.

So for a AIBU this has gone quite well. OP has changed her mind on the party, do we really need to carry on running her down on something she herself as now admitted she didn't handle very well?

OP, you are making the right decision now. Your ex friend was wrong to hound you the way she did but you can obviously see now that you probably hurt her, that doesn't excuse the way she treated you back though.

RoastitBubblyJocks · 29/11/2014 10:20

This is an example of Mumsnet sometimes having no clue about other people's finances.

OP says "we couldn't afford to donate" and people pile in saying "you could have given her £5 or £10". Fuck off, some people can't actually.

And yes, if the friend had posted here saying "AIBU to harass my friend every day to bully her into giving money to sponsor my husband? " she would be torn to pieces.

Sallystyle · 29/11/2014 10:23

OP I am sure you have been a great friend to her. Yeah, a text would have been nice, she probably did think you didn't care enough to even reply to her, but at the same time her behaviour was disgusting. No one should ever feel obligated to give money.

GoneGirlGone · 29/11/2014 10:28

YABU. Doing what you did, or more accurately, didn't do gives the impress that you're not bothered about her child's illness.
I am in little doubt that you have embellished the tale a bit - did you really receive that many messages? If so why on earth didn't you respond early on? Or even donate a fiver seeing as she was apparently a friend?

MrsDeVere · 29/11/2014 10:32

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Jomato · 29/11/2014 10:32

Actually no I haven't embellished but thanks for calling me a liar. what would be the point of lying about it when I've said I am genuinely looking for perspective on it?

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BuzzardBird · 29/11/2014 10:34

But, by not responding she was replying...she was saying "No".

GoneGirlGone · 29/11/2014 10:34

Ok, sorry. I am guilty of enhancing tales a bit so tend to take things with a pinch of salt. ShockHope you can put it all behind you.

RandomFriend · 29/11/2014 10:35

I think you should have a one-to-one discussion with the other mother so that you can bring everything into the open with her regarding her request, your not feeling able to respond either with a small donation or a text to just let her know (which is easy for posters on this board to suggest now but clearly was not something you were able to do at the time and I do understand that), and her then feeling ignored because there was no response.

I do think that she should simply have let it drop - a donation should be one that is willingly given in response to a request, not one that is give after a series of ultimatums! But remember, for her, it is about her child with special needs, and so for her is very emotional.

Could a friendly discussion for the two of you over a coffee so that you can clear up this misunderstanding (ie, you were just not in a position to contribute at the time, whereas she felt that as a huge slight) be something that you could initiate? Remember, the goal is to be at ease within the social group for you and your DD. Whilst I don't think you have anything to apologise for, I think it would be reasonable of you to express regret for not having responded to her texts. When she understands your position, she might also apologise for having excluded your DD from a party.

Sallystyle · 29/11/2014 10:35

Tomato, some people just like being arseholes. Probably bored on a Saturday.

Some people have obviously never really struggled desperately with money if they think everyone can spare a fiver.

Aeroflotgirl · 29/11/2014 10:38

I agree funky, I wouldent put it past her. Tgat goes against what charity is all about.

MorelliOrRanger · 29/11/2014 10:44

Agree random.

RandomFriend · 29/11/2014 10:47

Would they say that if she was fundraising for RSPCA and didn't have a disabled child?

If she had been fundraising for the RSPCA and didn't have a disabled child, she probably wouldn't feel so emotional about non-replies to a bog-standard "my DH is doing a whatever, will you sponsor him".

OP is perfectly right not to reply, and that should normally be enough. For OPs (ex)friend, it was not; and then the friend completely overreacted.

Now, how does OP respond to the situation so that her whole social group including DDs party can be put right?

FunkyBoldRibena · 29/11/2014 10:52

Actually, I would respond - if she ever confronts you again - with 'How do you know I didn't donate? I may have donated straight to the charity. And whether I did or not is not your place to try and 'out' me to our friends. It is not your business who or where I donate to and that's the end of it'.

Pelicangiraffe · 29/11/2014 10:53

I think it was inappropriate for her to hound you for sponsorship, then cut off your friendship. However, it's not appropriate for you to dictate to your friend who she can/can't invite. I recon you need to be the adult in all this and rise above. Be polite and just enjoy your other friends.

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