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AIBU?

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to accidently spill my coffee on dd's collage of "insperational women" and make her re-do it

211 replies

bonded · 02/11/2014 07:13

None of the woman she has picked are insperational, maybe Beyonce but I dont like her faux feminism.

Also on this collage there is a certain voilent racist Geordie, a wag that's married to the guy with the hair transplant and a certain popstar who's surname ryhmes with whora who has lots of dodgy stories...

Basically it looks like she's shallow and just chosen dumb/ horrible models. I gave her a load of guardians to use but looks like she's got a trashy mag also.

Aibu?

OP posts:
TripTrapTripTrapOverTheBridge · 02/11/2014 10:08

She is 9 years old. It is HER homework and she gets to choose who she finds 'inspirational' for it. She is not you. She is not being assessed on who feminists find it socially acceptable to find inspirational.

It's not a bad thing, it's quite normal at that age. Inspiration changes with age. Most people of my generation (I'm 32) found things like popstars inspirational when we were kids, we didn't take that throughout our whole lives though, it changed as we got older although they can still be included.Yes, I know people are now seeming to be more desperate to be WAGS etc but the distaste for that should not play a part in her having to redo her homework because YOU don't like it.

Let her hand in the work she has done that felt like her. Then you can later talk to her generally about inspirational women. Actually, I'd bet there will be some class discussion on it anyway which will lead to talking about powerful women and women who aren't all about a pretty face

Follyfoot · 02/11/2014 10:08

I was listening to Cokie van der Velde on the radio recently, she is an astonishing woman. Definitely worth your daughter finding out more about her.

WobbilyFang · 02/11/2014 10:09

You don't have to reccommend people. It's her hwk. Maybe you need to have discussions about feminism OUTSIDE the realms of pushy parent homework completion.

CrashDiveOnMingoCity · 02/11/2014 10:09

People gave you advice on how to promote positive female role models for your daughter. Instead, you have 'prompted' her to change her role models and your choices have dubious reasons behind them. YABVU!!

Purplepixiedust · 02/11/2014 10:10

'I rejected Condoleezza Rice because I've never seen her with natural hair'

REALLY?? ffs.

This is a learning exercise so the teacher can discuss what inspiring means and introduce some inspiring women. It is also an opportunity for you to discuss this subject with your daughter. The women your daughter has chosen are pretty, successful, liked, confident etc which are all attractive qualities when you are 9. Even if she has an awareness of world issues it is unlikely she will know the names of the individuals involved. Hopefully at the end of the exercise she will have broadened her views. If she were 14 you might expect a different result. This is her project and views and you shouldn't criticise or interfere.

BiscuitMillionaire · 02/11/2014 10:11

I started out agreeing with you, in a way. But since your comment about a woman of colour without a perm I think you are being utterly ridiculous. Not to mention overbearing. Your DD is going to seriously rebel against your imposed worldview before too long, I hope you realise that.

TripTrapTripTrapOverTheBridge · 02/11/2014 10:11

How on earth can you recommend who inspires who OP? You are doing your daughter a serious disservice here. Telling her so and so should be/is inspirational doesn't inspire someone. Them seeing it themselves, feeling and understanding it is inspirational.

good luck to your poor daughter if she has to explain to anyone in class why she finds people she doesn't really know, see or understand are 'inspirational' to 'her'

JenniferGovernment · 02/11/2014 10:14

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Gileswithachainsaw · 02/11/2014 10:14

Yabu. As if at nine she's going to have teg foggiest idea about tax avoidance or who they slept with.

Being pretty and popular and famous is pretty much what a nine year old would find inspirational.

Use the opportunity to have the conversation about true role models and the reasons why. But don't ruin her homework.

DownByTheRiverside · 02/11/2014 10:15

Or why someone without 'natural' hair is less of a role model.
Do you include all women who dye their grey hair in your dismissal?

YouTheCat · 02/11/2014 10:15

I was going to be all helpful until you wrote 'people of colour'.

Leave your child's homework alone. At least her reasons for feeling these are inspirational women are genuine and not contrived to appear to be something she isn't.

buffyp · 02/11/2014 10:15

Incidentally I would be very careful about branding Cheryl Fernandez Versini a racist. She was found NOT GUILY on that charge and has long since paid the price for that incident. You don't sound particularly inspirational yourself judging people for ONE incident several years ago which has been dealt with.

bonded · 02/11/2014 10:17

OK maybe I am being a bit precious about the perm, but I would recommend anyone to watch chris rocks documentary good hair.

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ChippingInAutumnLover · 02/11/2014 10:18

If your daughter doesn't know more suitable inspirational women, whose fault is that?

TripTrapTripTrapOverTheBridge · 02/11/2014 10:19

Oh for heavens sake bonded I would recommend you leave your poor daughter alone. Think you are helping her? You're doing the opposite

UptheChimney · 02/11/2014 10:20

Who is teaching her this rubbish?

Lucyccfc · 02/11/2014 10:20

I thought you were going to say she was a teenager! At the age of 9, would you expect her to come out with women like Emily Pankhurst?

My DS is 9 and he would say people like Joe Hart (goalkeeper), not Bevan or Churchill.

Let her do her own homework using people she knows and let her teacher guide the discussion in class.

saoirse31 · 02/11/2014 10:21

yabu. first, it's ur dds homework not yours. so stop .nterfering in the actual work shes done now, but consider introducing her to history, science, politics etc. in other words talk to her, show her about things that are important in the world. watch the news with her etc. but don't do this in a ten minute interference with her homework. do it as a natural part of your b family life. If you never talk with her about important things how do you expect her to learn?

DownByTheRiverside · 02/11/2014 10:23

So you are worried that your DD might appear shallow and uneducated?
She's 9, what's your excuse?
Chris Rock said "it's not important what's on top of your head—it's important what's inside of your head. That is the theme of the movie."

DownByTheRiverside · 02/11/2014 10:24

'If you never talk with her about important things how do you expect her to learn?'

From school.

saoirse31 · 02/11/2014 10:28

Really downbtr? only school? that's a depressing attitude...

PrincessOfChina · 02/11/2014 10:28

I think the time to have a conversation about what inspirational means and who it might encompass was ahead of the homework being completed.

sassytheFIRST · 02/11/2014 10:29

Asked my 9yo who she would choose and got a list including Katy perry, Mary Berry but also Helen Skelton - exBlue Peter and all-round super girl with world records for canoeing the amazon single handed etc.

DownByTheRiverside · 02/11/2014 10:33

'Really downbtr? only school? that's a depressing attitude...'

Well, in this specific case and on this particular topic, yes. School will hopefully address some of the concepts involved in choosing inspirational figures other than by their hair, colour or whether they are a popstar.

lougle · 02/11/2014 10:35

Sorry, I'm wading in on the Cheryl Cole Tweedy Fernandez-Versini issue:

Bad point:
One incident of drunken violence 11 years ago. Costs & victim surcharge paid. Community service completed.

Inspirational qualities:

  1. Left her husband when he cheated, risking a fall in fame for principle. A role model to young women in that they don't have to put up with such behaviour.
  1. Many charitable activities as part of Girls Aloud. Climbing a mountain for comic relief. Charity songs.
  1. Set up a charitable foundation for children in the (deprived) area she grew up in.
  1. Widely reported to be a pleasant person to work with. Polite to contestants.
  1. Save the 2003 incident, has only ever received positive press coverage.

I haven't got time to wade through your other examples, but I don't think your dd is wrong to be inspired.

Hey, I'm inspired by all sorts of people your DD would never have heard of. But it's not my project!