getting annoyed at botoxed friends getting told how young they look

[joshandjamie]

Yes, I probably am being unreasonable. And yes, I should remove my judgey pants from my overly clenched buttocks, BUT:

several of the mums from school who I hang out with have botox. And fillers. And liposuction and any other range of artificial beautifying processes beyond the normal hair, manis and make up. Each to their own. I would personally never do it because I worry about the safety side of things AND it feels like cheating.

What irritates me is that whenever they post pics of themselves on Facebook or even go out in real life, they always get loads of comments raving about how young they look, that they haven't aged a day since high school and that they're just getting more stunning by the minute. In contrast I look like the wrinkled crone in the corner.

It makes me want to yell: THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE PUMPED THEIR FACES FULL OF BOTOX!!!

I'm going to guess that that would be unreasonable to do. (Doesn't mean I wouldn't love to do it. Just once).

I realise this makes me sound like a huge cow and I know that they are perfectly entitled to do what they like and feel good about themselves when people notice. I just think it's slightly unfair that those of us who don't 'cheat' get viewed as being old or having let themselves go, if we don't go the botox route. Am I being unreasonable to feel this way?

[stopgap]

I have a sinking feeling that, in twenty years time, Botox and fillers will be linked to cancer and autoimmune conditions. I just don't trust the beauty industry. If fairly "innocuous" ingredients, such as mica in mineral make-up and Triclosan have been shown to be damaging, and subjected to more stringent regulation, then I don't see how Botox, even in small doses, can be viewed as the equivalent of popping a pill. (Yes, I know that it has been used medically for a long time.)

For the record, I only use make-up and beauty products that score a 1 or less with the Environmental Working Group, so I am a bit paranoidinformed.

[ApocalypseNowt]

Comfort yourself with the thought the you end up with the face you deserve....

[Shockers]

Oh bugger...

[paxtecum]

Botox doesn't just wear off.

The deadly poison moves round the body and is filtered out by the lymph glands.

The lymph glands are great at filtering out all the toxins we digest, but they can get over loaded and this can result in cancers.

This is an interesting website:
//www.botoxsupportcommunity.com

[Ponkernonsir]

Stopgap there's already a huge cohort of evidence of safety of use of Botox in a therapeutic setting at a far higher dose.

[CustardFromATin]

Yab a bit u. They're working hard and throwing all their money at those faces, it's a bit like complimenting a knitter on her lovely knitting - maybe they're just being polite

Also, maybe it's not that you're a haggard old crone, but that people see that your values are less superficial, and compliment you accordingly.

[noddyholder]

Some patients have been having it since the late 70s. I know one lady and she had it every month at massive doses. She is fine and elderly now and fit as a fiddle. I don't know anything about fillers. I have a thrid dose of botox every year and it just softens lines. I am immunosuppressed and it has had no effect on my monthly blood tests.

[Ponkernonsir]

Noddy when you say massive doses, they'll still be minuscule compared to the giant doses to release spacisity in major muscles. Bring on Botox I say!

[noddyholder]

I mean as an inpatient for bladder issues not cosmetic.

[Ponkernonsir]

Ahh I'm with you!

[Floisme]

For me personally, whether or not the stuff is safe is a separate issue. What I object to is the way 'looking good' has become conflated with 'looking young'. I am vain and deeply superficial but I think treating ageing as if it's a disfigurement is fucked up.

(By the way, looking tired and grumpy are all symptoms of ageing; that's how it happens - you don't just wake up one day with a face like a prune.)

[Suzannewithaplan]

to some extent the signs of aging also correlate with poor health, it's not just about vanity, if your health is good you will tend to be more youthful (ceteris paribus)

[Floisme]

Just to be clear, I think we've all of us been brainwashed into seeing age as a disfigurement and that's what I think is fucked up. I'm not having a pop at anyone who has Botox - it's your choice.

[Diorella]

I think the botox stops me look cross

The sunscreen, the 20+ years of eating healthily and working out and drinking lots of water and not smoking (ever) and not drinking too much alcohol, that's probably what makes me look a bit younger than I am. But I'm not alone, a lot of women my age look a bit younger than they are. So it hardly counts. I'm not smug!

[Diorella]

Support the irish economy, have lots of botox.
This is what the doc told me as he was drawing dots on my forehead.

[Floisme]

But what's so wrong with looking cross? I find it very useful

[Diorella]

I prefer to look calm and content.

[Diorella]

Fool people

[Floisme]

Nah, calm and content isn't for me. I'd rather look scary

[Suzannewithaplan]

is there really an objective yardstick against which we can measure ourselves in order to determine is we look younger than we are?

IME most people on here claim to look younger then they are...we cant all be better than average in the aging stakes, that would be a logical contradiction

[atticusclaw]

I agree that a lot of what people think is botox is not botox, its badly done facelifts etc.

I have always been told I look young for my age. I'm 40. People think I'm early 30s. I have had botox every six months for the past two years on one line across my forehead which is very deep and which has been there since I was 15ish.

[NoImSpartacus]

Jesus, this thread is so full of hatred and vitriol from women about other women it makes for uncomfortable reading, no wonder the female species has such a reputation for being utter bitches to each other.

Some of the comments bitching about women who will get their 'comeuppance' when they are poisoned by the botox and fillers they have been injecting is just downright nasty.

Some people look better than you, fillers or no fillers, get over yourselves.

[TheFirmament]

Just to be clear, I didn't mean it like that at all. I find the idea of Botox alarming and I worry about how safe it is long-term, among other things about it that worry me. I don't like that over-botoxed look either. But that doesn't mean I'm looking forward to seeing people become ill or look terrible in later life. No "come-uppance" about it.

In fact you are using "come-uppance" in quotes as if someone has said it and no one has, have they?