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To feel furious with childminder in hairdresser...

215 replies

flatwhite · 11/12/2013 13:45

Having my hair cut at local salon. Sat at sink having hair washed. Little boy about 21/2 yrs sitting strapped in buggy facing me. Surrounded by a few toys(on sofa by buggy) and holding a little book and reading to self.
I assumed mum had gone to toilet (or would be back in a minute) and I started interacting with child whilst head back having hair washed.
Child smiled at me and held out book
As if he wanted to be read to.
Hair washer asked if I wNted him to beloved closer to me (obv assuming he was mine)
I Said he was not my child but remarked I good he was sitting on his own and amusing self given young age.
A lady then sat back and peeped head out from her seat where she was having hair done. She smiled and I asked if this was her son. I also said "it breaks my heart that he is not protesting to sitting on his own"
She smiled back and tolde she was his childminder "and not to speak too soon"
Then went back to getting hair done.
I felt rather sad (i admit even tearful) I am a bit of a softie given I am mum of 2 boys age 3 and 7M and still breatfeeding DS2. So poss set off my hormones.
But is it unreasonable to feel angry with this woman. If she was mum it would be bad enough - ok to bring child to salon but at least seat him so you can talk to him not so he us facing awY from you and all alone. But she is being paid to look after this child.
I haven't said anything as prob not appropriate and not fair on child to make minder cross but finding experience difficult!

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kotinka · 11/12/2013 23:45

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HaroldTheGoat · 11/12/2013 23:49

Anyone who comes here at bath times gets involved in the carnage as far as I'm concerned. They don't come back. Grin

pictish · 11/12/2013 23:49

Who said anything about mealtimes and bedtimes? That's not what I was talking about at all!

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Laquitar · 11/12/2013 23:54

Going to the hairdresser is not something that you can keep it secret. The mum can notice the haircut. And you will be seen by other local mums there. Most likely the mum knew and agreed.

Although i think that the woman was the mum and she wanted to wind you up after your silly comment.

WorraLiberty · 11/12/2013 23:55

A self settling child in the care of an adult who knows enough about kids, to know you don't have to devote every single shred of your attention to them 24hrs a day.

Call the Police!

Broken Britain at its worst...

monicalewinski · 12/12/2013 00:00

Worra Xmas Grin

pictish · 12/12/2013 00:05

The same people who get up and leave you sitting on your own in their kitchen, so they can read a story/play a game/sing a song/whatever in the middle of your visit.

Yes, in the middle of the day! Leaving you sitting on your own, nursing a coffee, while they fuck off to do a jigsaw at the child's behest because the child is unable to entertain themselves, and demands their parent's attention, which is continually granted.
Have you not come across that before? I have, and more than once.

HaroldTheGoat · 12/12/2013 00:07

Evening routine is bedtime stuff though!

No one is suggesting not doing a bedtime routine when you have a visitor.

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pictish · 12/12/2013 00:16

It was clear to everyone else.
And I do give a fuck about my kids as it goes. How cheeky!

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pictish · 12/12/2013 00:18

Ok then. Goodnight. x

Alwayscheerful · 12/12/2013 04:51

If it were a grandparent minding the child free of charge would you have the same opinion?

Our job as parents is to prepare our children for the big wide world, this starts with experiencing shopping, doctors appointments, hairdressers, chiropody & hospital appointments, dealing with the plumber or sky man at home, taking the car for new tyres or an MOT. I would say children in a home setting have a distinct advantage over children in nursery.

Once you put the but I am paying you issue aside, they are all perfectly normal experiences for children.

Gileswithachainsaw · 12/12/2013 07:24

pictish

You are bang on :o

As for the development stuff, well when they had been quite happy up until guests arrive and then suddenly they have to tell u about a spider every two minutes, it's less about development and more about their desire to be the centre of attention.

Pooka · 12/12/2013 07:33

I wouldn't have minded if my childminder had taken ds to the hairdressers. Just as I was not concerned by her taking him to the shops. Part of the reason I chose a childminder was the home-from-home setting. I knew that they did lots of child-oriented activities in addition to the normal household or day to day tasks, just as I did when I was home with him.

insancerre · 12/12/2013 07:36

I completely agree with pictisch.
Someties children need to learn to amuse themselves and that they are not the cente of the universe.

It's not just me saying that, the curriculum that all CMs, nurseries, pre-schools and school nurseries says so too.

One of the targets for children's development in the Personal, Social and Emotional section of the EYFS is this-

"Can usually tolerate delay when needs are not immediately met, and understands wishes may not always be met 30-50 months"

The CM can take that one now Grin

insancerre · 12/12/2013 07:37

*tick, not take

ZombieMojaveWonderer · 12/12/2013 07:49

Why is it such a problem that the cm gets her hair cut with her charge there? I really don't see the problem. I have no qualms about a child minder getting on with life while minding my kids. It's a simple every day thing it's not like she's taken the child to the pub while she gets pissed for goodness sake! I was thinking about becoming a child minder like my mum was for 20 odd years and she was the best! She is still in contact with all her children, she's been to all their weddings and met their children so she must have got it right and guess what she took them to the hair dressers with her Wink but now if all my clients are going to get uppity because I take their kids shopping or to the hair dressers once every 6 - 8 weeks then I don't think I'll bother.
Personally OP I really do think YABVU.

merrymouse · 12/12/2013 07:52

Re: difference between supermarket and hairdressers, when you take a child to a supermarket you are theoretically (at least on TV) involving them in the process. Not sure I would want a mindee actively involved in my hair cut...

Having said that, I think it depends on how long you are there for and the nature of the child.

kungfupannda · 12/12/2013 07:56

Bloody hell! If I'd been in the hairdressers and heard you make that comment, I'd have been Shock

There are whole levels of implications in what you said. The only possible reason you would be heartbroken about a child sitting quietly, is that you think they're so sad and neglected that they've lost the will to protest.

Someone having their hair done in circumstances you know nothing about, while a child (whose temperament they clearly know) sits contentedly in his buggy nearby, is hardly cause for heartbreak.

OHforDUCKSchristmasCake · 12/12/2013 07:58

I dont know if this has been pointed out, sorry if Ive missed it.

But there would be an enormous difference between the woman saying

"im the childminder"

To

"Im just minding her."

As in, she isnt mine im just minding her for a friend.
Perhaps a friend had an emergancy childcare problem asked her friend to mind her, friend said had a hair appointment, mother said dont worry the baby will be fine.

Or something.

OHforDUCKSchristmasCake · 12/12/2013 08:01

FWIW though Id be right fucked off if my kid was in a hairdressers while she was getting her hair done.

Gileswithachainsaw · 12/12/2013 08:01

Expect the "neglected" child trotted off to the bakery and happily munched a gingerbread man on the way home for being such a good boy in the hair dressers.

Only on MN have I heard such nonsense about devoting every second to activities.

Morloth · 12/12/2013 08:01

Heartbroken and furious are ridiculous words to use about a child sitting and reading a book while his CM gets her haircut.

You have basically no idea of what is actually going on or what the arrangements are.

Weird.