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To expect my boyfriend to realise his wife is a gold digger and vindictive person?

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NMC89 · 24/11/2013 20:15

Background: my boyfriend and I have been together for 2 years, having been friends for some time before that. We have a large age difference but have an incredible bond and are best friends. He has been separated from his wife for 4 years but they still live in the same house (they don't have sex). I live in London and she lives in Italy - he commutes, spending the week with me in the UK and the weekends with his children.

She has had multiple affairs openly and manipulates him unbearably (she has threatened to stop him seeing his children). He financially supports her (as well as her sister and brother). I find her behaviour disgusting, she only speaks to him when she wants money or a new car and refuses to do anything for him or the household (she is a sahm) - including disciplining the children, cooking, cleaning or food shopping. He does all these when he gets back after a week working in the UK. I try hard not to constantly be horrible about her, but it is hard to see the man I love being taken advantage of so viciously. I know they are not going to divorce (for the sake of their children) but I really can't see how this is a good alternative. He admits that she is awful and has got very angry about some of the things she has done (notably bringing her boyfriend to their family home to spend the night when his children were there), but he is incapable of doing anything about it and has aided her boyfriend's business and bought her property. Am I being unreasonable to expect him to tell her about me, stand up for himself and stop being a coward as well as getting divorce proceedings under way?

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thenightsky · 24/11/2013 21:31

He goes to great lengths to stop you snooping? Oh I'll bet he bloody does!

I'd be suggesting a holiday in Italy where he can show you round his stomping ground, take you to his favourite restaurants, bars, meet his mates etc. Let him see you browsing easyjet for flights.

MadameDefarge · 24/11/2013 21:32

Glad to be of help in your social experiment.

sweetskull · 24/11/2013 21:33

I would get his address in Italy and pop in one weekend to see it all with my own eyes.
You are young, no kids. Just do it! If you are not brave enough or fear losing him, send a friend he doesn't know yet to snoop on him there.

superzero · 24/11/2013 21:33

Please don't waste any more time being "hidden" from someone's family.2 years!
This is not normal and you deserve more.
He needs to take you to Italy.
Who knows what the deal is with his wife but he is not acknowledging the relationship outside of his geographically very separate London life.
Big red flag!

EdithWeston · 24/11/2013 21:33

" they both deserve to be happy "

Perhaps they are

"and their children deserve some consistency and honesty"

They have it: a consistent home, and parents who are deterined to stick togaether, even if they have a bit on the side. He's putting himself to a hell of a lot of effort to trae to see the, every weekend. His family matters, and the deal between him and his wife and family clear comes first. He'll drop you like a hot coal if you step out of line and do something at might disrupt his family.

And your friends might indeed come to like him. Womanisers are usually charming. It's a basic part of a successful seducer's toolkit.

Grokette · 24/11/2013 21:33

Jesus Tee I had to clench my pelvic floor so hard at Tardis Just conveys it all, really!

BrianTheMole · 24/11/2013 21:35

But op, if he's split up with his wife, and they are only together for the children, then why wouldn't he tell her about you? He is following a script here, I know you can't let yourself believe it, and the two of you are special somehow, but he really is lying to you. It would be such a shame for you to waste your youth on this. You could have so much more. Don't you think you deserve that?

travellingbird · 24/11/2013 21:35

Cruel to be kind, MN...
NMC I hope you are okay, but I do wonder, after this thread, what next for you?

ShirakawaKaede · 24/11/2013 21:37

I find this: "I know he's not lying to me or writing the emails himself as he goes to great lengths to stop me being a snooper etc." rather worrying! What exactly do you mean by that?

And yes, he is lying, the emails are not proof of anything and he's blatantly still sleeping with his wife - I think you're being very naive!

MadameDefarge · 24/11/2013 21:37

I can just see the scene now...

Sophy gazed out of her window as Julio gets into the taxi.

Sighing she pushes back her thick, chesnut hair, blinks away the moisture from her clear grey eyes, hugs the cashmere cardi closer.

The rain falls on this cold, lonely city. The lights waver through the dark and drizzle.

Marietta. Again. The hospital called. Another suicide attempt. Closing her eyes against the pain of remembering his haggard face as he read the email, she curled up in the large chair and prayed all would be well.

Julio. Oh Julio. Through the half open door she could she the rumpled sheets where so lately...

NMC89 · 24/11/2013 21:38

EdithWeston - I think some of what you've said is very true - I think that his family should certainly come first, that's not what I have an issue with.

I love that everyone assumes that I am both pretty and stupid (please see multiple posts above). I could be very ugly and a neurosurgeon but none seems to think that a possibility!

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scottishmummy · 24/11/2013 21:38

And btw she not his ex wife,they aren't divorced.they're raising kids as a couple
I hope you're using protection against std.its likely he's still sexually active with wife
And you need to work on your self esteem to be less of a soft touch

BrianTheMole · 24/11/2013 21:40

I'm not assuming you're stupid op. We all make mistakes.

birdybear · 24/11/2013 21:40

if you are happy with the set up, why post? if you are not happy, do something about it. simples!

Pagwatch · 24/11/2013 21:40

Hahaha.
A neurosurgeon !

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Purple2012 · 24/11/2013 21:40

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I had a boyfriend who still lived with his ex. Couldn't move out because of the house etc, was going to see a solicitor. His friends knew about us so I figured he was being truthful.

Then the so called ex got pregnant!

I then found out they had split up when we got together but soon sorted it out and they got back together.

When I found out I ended it. Looking back all the signs were there. He constantly tried to get me to change my mind and got a bit horrible. He even text me straight after his partner gave birth saying he missed me.

I later found out I wasn't the first or even the only one!

They are now married and I have no doubt he is still playing away.

You need to do something or in years to come you will look back and realise how lonely your life has become.

NMC89 · 24/11/2013 21:41

MadameDefage - that's really rather good. The next EL James?

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scottishmummy · 24/11/2013 21:45

You're soft touch who thinks she's so strong and sassy

thenightsky · 24/11/2013 21:45

I take you speak Italian then OP? to read them emails from his missus.

EdithWeston · 24/11/2013 21:45

I have no idea what you look like, and likelihood of falling for a conman (whether emotional or financial scam) is unrelated to intelligence.

And he is scamming you. Now, if you really don't mind being the second best, have no ambitions for an exclusive or long term relationship, and don't want children, then setting for this sort of fake relationship could be jolly fun. Some peop,e really don't want exclusive or serious relationships.

But I'm not sure that's you - for why would you have posted if you were as happy with the situation as he is? But if he is the limit of your hopes, then enjoy it whilst it lasts.

SeaSickSal · 24/11/2013 21:45

Aaah ah ha ha ha ha ha ha! I can just picture it, lying on bed post coitally and the bloke says 'It so awful my wife has AFFAIRS' and the OP saying "Yes it's dreadful, what sort of awful person has sex while they're still married'?

God some people are just as dumb as a box of hair.

And this has nothing to do with the children deserving 'consistency and honesty'. It's all to do with the OP wanting this man for herself and being prepared to break up a family to do it.

Presuming this is not a wind up the OP must be incredibly dim.

Only1scoop · 24/11/2013 21:46

So Op....how has your little 'social experiment of people's perception' fared so far regarding your 'relationship'? Wink

BrianTheMole · 24/11/2013 21:46

So are you a minger then op?

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