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To expect my boyfriend to realise his wife is a gold digger and vindictive person?

409 replies

NMC89 · 24/11/2013 20:15

Background: my boyfriend and I have been together for 2 years, having been friends for some time before that. We have a large age difference but have an incredible bond and are best friends. He has been separated from his wife for 4 years but they still live in the same house (they don't have sex). I live in London and she lives in Italy - he commutes, spending the week with me in the UK and the weekends with his children.

She has had multiple affairs openly and manipulates him unbearably (she has threatened to stop him seeing his children). He financially supports her (as well as her sister and brother). I find her behaviour disgusting, she only speaks to him when she wants money or a new car and refuses to do anything for him or the household (she is a sahm) - including disciplining the children, cooking, cleaning or food shopping. He does all these when he gets back after a week working in the UK. I try hard not to constantly be horrible about her, but it is hard to see the man I love being taken advantage of so viciously. I know they are not going to divorce (for the sake of their children) but I really can't see how this is a good alternative. He admits that she is awful and has got very angry about some of the things she has done (notably bringing her boyfriend to their family home to spend the night when his children were there), but he is incapable of doing anything about it and has aided her boyfriend's business and bought her property. Am I being unreasonable to expect him to tell her about me, stand up for himself and stop being a coward as well as getting divorce proceedings under way?

OP posts:
LoveandLife · 24/11/2013 20:38

What do you friends and family think?

WooWooOwl · 24/11/2013 20:38

This guy has done a really good job on you.

Enjoy what you will from this relationship, just don't kid yourself that it's going somewhere, or that he loves you as much as you love him.

formerbabe · 24/11/2013 20:38

Sorry I still don't know why the wife can't know all about you seeing as she has a boyfriend (apparently)

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 24/11/2013 20:38

Deary me.

None so blind as those that will not see.

SavoyCabbage · 24/11/2013 20:38

Are any of the special occasions you attend as a couple on his side? Nephews christenings etc.

Have you been to the town he lives in?

MammaTJ · 24/11/2013 20:38

If they are not together, she is not having affairs, she is doing what a single woman is free to do.

As for you seeing emails where they discuss not having had sex for years, well I havent had sex with my ExH for years, but it is not discussed and neither does it need to be, he is my ex, of course we don't have sex, that is normal and does not need to be talked about. If it is talked about, it is because they are together!

TheGreatWizardQuiQuaeQuod · 24/11/2013 20:38

If he wanted to leave - he would.

For whatever reason, this is the arrangement he wants. The arrangement he chooses.

You can either accept that and your place in it or walk away.

If you mean enough to him, he'll do what's needed in order to be with you.

If he lets you walk - he didn't love you enough to choose you over his current situation.

NMC89 · 24/11/2013 20:39

Mrsjay - no he has his own apartment in London.

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Only1scoop · 24/11/2013 20:39

So he had been honest to the point of saying....he won't divorce her etc. where do you see a future with him? Is she aware of you?

Only1scoop · 24/11/2013 21:05

Op also.... In what respect did she refer to not having sex in the emails? Also did you see his replies to them?

gordyslovesheep · 24/11/2013 21:06

yes WHY would an ex wife mention not having sex with him?

EdithWeston · 24/11/2013 21:08

Have you actually seen the Italian set up yourself, or met his children, or met any of his friend/family (who know his DC) ?

I think you're being strung along. Becauseal, you have his H's IDE of th story, an a gnerl assertion that both he nad she are happy with things just as they are.

Can you really not do any better than this? What you describe is pretty inadequate on his part, to put it mildly.

NorthernLurker · 24/11/2013 21:10

What's the difference between her affairs and his (that would be YOU OP)? What's the difference between her manipulation of him and his manipulation of her - paying for everything. Come to that - his manipulation of you - living half a life whilst he has his cake and shags it.
You're being a fool OP. You're young, you need to know you deserve better than this creep.

lunar1 · 24/11/2013 21:10

Sorry op, i think you are just his ow.

gobbynorthernbird · 24/11/2013 21:11

Hahahahaha! they don't have sex, only together for the children,hahahaha! Wake up.

MadameDefarge · 24/11/2013 21:11

Any adult man who forms friendships with teenage girls while having a wife and family (as you say you are early twenties, two years in and friends before that) is frankly suspect.

You think he loves you. quite possibly. What's not to love about a young, adoring girl?

He is using you, however loving it feels.

He is also taking up years you will never get back.

Shakey1500 · 24/11/2013 21:11

There is a whacking great big elephant in the room that everyone else can see but you.

He's lying.

Appreciate you don't want to hear it or acknowledge it. Maybe deep down you suspect this and have subconsciously used the "Is she a gold digger" to test the responses.

scottishmummy · 24/11/2013 21:11

Now this is an example if a man who's having his cake and eating it.wife and lover
And what's more you have believed all the bs he's told you about his ex
You need to run,and run fast.go date a man who's free to date you

DeepThought · 24/11/2013 21:11

of COURSE he spends Christmas etc with his family

Have you met the children? Been introduced to his wider family?

froubylou · 24/11/2013 21:11

Think I read a book last year with this storyline?

OneStepCloserIWillExterminate · 24/11/2013 21:13

Have you met any of his friends and family?

He obviously is not going to get divorced, do you really want this to be your life? And yy you dont mind him spending Christmas there and not with you, will you still feel the same in 5 years?

HectorVector · 24/11/2013 21:13

You're young. You deserve better than this. He will NEVER leave his wife, so stop deluding yourself about his 'unhappy marriage' and move on.

TheGreatWizardQuiQuaeQuod · 24/11/2013 21:13

Yes, and of course there's no way someone can set up an email account so he can send emails to himself to back up his bullshit...

BrianTheMole · 24/11/2013 21:13

Well, I would absolutely insist that he tells her, and that you meet her. If he doesn't do this for you, then without a doubt he has something to hide.

WitchOfEndor · 24/11/2013 21:14

So he and his wife are Italian? So these messages you have seen, are they in Italian too, as you would expect from two Italians talking to each other? Because if they are in English I would suggest that they might not be genuine.

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