Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be incandescent with rage about this email (v long, sorry)

219 replies

Caitycat · 06/06/2013 20:17

I hope I'm not because I am absolutely furious. A bit of background, my parents are Roman Catholic and I was brought up in that tradition, dh's family are C of E although fil was brought up a Methodist in Belfast. Dh and I are very occasional attendees of our village (C of E) church.

Both sets of gps have been on at us since our dd (now 9mo) was born about having her christened. My dps said they thought it would be great for her to be christened in the village church and went out of their way to say that as far as they were concerned all christians were the same and they were not ar all worried whether she was Catholic or not. Fil sent dh a series of emails emphasising how important it was for her to be christened into the "family religion" I.e. His (by which he means C of E despite his methodist roots). He mentioned that he knew my mother (why her specifically I'm not sure) would have a problem with it but that shouldn't stop us "doing the right thing".

Dh responded strongly saying the only person with a "problem" was him and quoting my parents' comments. We heard nothing more about it for several months. I mentioned the idea of getting her christened a few times but we are v busy and dh is not sure he wants to so we have agreed to leave it for a while.

Fast forward to today dh receives another email which includes the following; if you decide not to have her baptised I shall want to know what this decision is based on. You have told me there are no issues with (my) parents. I can therefore only assume that (I) has an issue with our family being protestant, a family she willingly married into and whose name she has taken. She presumably us opposed to your children being protestant and that being the case you cannot be surprised thaat I would never accept the religious lineage of my family being changed through children. WTAF

Please tell me IANBU to be incredibly angry at both the email and the attitude it displays towards me.

Thanks if you've read this far I really needed to share!

OP posts:
Thesunalwayshinesontv · 06/06/2013 21:08

Sorry, can't get over that "not accepting" sentence.

He doesn't have to accept it, does he? Just leads me to believe that he knows what he will do if he doesn't get his way, and is threatening you.

My blood is boiling on your behalf, OP.

Helpyourself · 06/06/2013 21:10

^I would never accept the religious lineage of my family being changed through children*
What does that even mean? Confused

ActiveTopics · 06/06/2013 21:10

I'd be mad too, his attitude to you doesn't instill hope for the future.

Could you try a totally different tactic and draw up the practicalities of religion in consultation with FiL - e.g. she will be baptised catholic but he can give her protestant prayer books which you will read...

A kind of 'Peace agreement' so he doesn't feel redundant in terms of her relig. inheritance if you choose the other faith.

mamadoc not sure about getting guidance from the vicar - vicar could well be just as blinkered/ bigoted...

TeddyBare · 06/06/2013 21:15

Could you have a humanist naming ceremony in stead? Either it will side step the issue or they'll be so offended at the concept that they won't come - either way you win.

Justfornowitwilldo · 06/06/2013 21:15

The OP is planning to get her child christened C of E. This fuss and the emails are because she and her DH haven't gotten round to it yet and her FIL, in the worse case of projection ever has assumed it hasn't happened yet because the OP and he mother have some problem with it!

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 06/06/2013 21:18

I'm from an enthusiastically Protestant Belfast family...but I'm much better now. Grin

I notice you haven't mentioned what you currently believe, yourself?

Would a humanist naming ceremony be an option? You'd get the celebration and welcoming and community stuff without opening the whole Pandora's box you've now been presented with.

cocolepew · 06/06/2013 21:18

Sectarian bigot.
I had an Irish maidan name and future MIL came to my door one day to ask if I had "Papal blood in me" Hmm.

Jan49 · 06/06/2013 21:28

I think you should tell him that you and your DH have both become Jewish and will be bringing up your children in the Jewish faith.Grin

It baffles me this animosity of Catholics v Protestants. To me they are both forms of Christianity. The same religion. Surely believing in the same God. Perhaps you could point that out to your FIL too.Grin

WafflyVersatile · 06/06/2013 21:28

'As you decided in which religion to bring up your children so we shall decide in which religion, if any, to bring up our child. I trust this is an end to the matter.

Good day to you. '

foreverondiet · 06/06/2013 21:30

Yes no wonder you are annoyed. But it's your child and your choice. And even if you decided to bring her up as a Catholic then it's nothing to do with him. Best to try to ignore.

saintlyjimjams · 06/06/2013 21:33

Ah an elderly northern Irish relative was horrified that we didn't have ds1 (or 2 or 3) christened. He practically begged us to. It was incredibly important to him - it seemed a part cultural thing tbh. The fact we didn't belong to a church, and did not have the required church attendance, and were both agnostic/atheist (changeable) didn't really matter to him.

I think I'd just refuse to have any sort of christening at all, but I can be contrary when told what to do.

Justfornowitwilldo · 06/06/2013 21:36

My ILs had a relative like this. All the children in the family born before he died were christened. All the ones after weren't.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 06/06/2013 21:38

Hes sectarian. And a twat. Sadly there are a few left here.

Both our sets of parents have been unsettingly quiet about what we are doing with DD2 and indeed where we are getting married. And we dont even have the differing religions to complicate it.

Ignore him.

Abra1d · 06/06/2013 21:40

'In future years they will be able to pinpoint the exact time their lineage changed to Catholic'

He means 'Changed back to Catholic'. Given that all Christians in the British Isles were once Catholic.

I am RC, married to a Scottish Presbyterian. I don't have much trouble with my inlaws, though we have one child christened Presbyterian and the other RC, in a mad attempt to keep people happy. But sometimes people in Scotland let slip the most amazing anti-Catholic prejudice. It just floors me. My daughter, also RC, went to a very Protestant wedding in NI a few months ago. As she is only 14 I was worried about her picking up on nasty comments. I have to say everyone was very welcoming to her. I would have been beyond furious if there'd been any stupid anti-Catholic comments. This kind of prejudice does not belong in the C21st.

WuzzleMonkey · 06/06/2013 21:47

I think you should ignore his email and just not bother getting her christened.

This is what you say about why you were thinking of having her christened

"Both sets of gps have been on at us since our dd (now 9mo) was born about having her christened. "

How dare they??? Both sets of parents I mean. They've all been bullying you into doing it.

FairhairedAndFrustrated · 06/06/2013 22:00

I come from a very big family, dh has only one sister. My FIL once said that at least if dh was married to a 'Fenian' he was guaranteed sex on tap.

He, for example, is an arsehole.

NicholasTeakozy · 06/06/2013 22:00

Thank you for laughing, it was a genuine typo. I have no problem denigrating religion and superstition, but I'm usually a stickler for spelling. Allan does sound like a chap you can believe in though, doesn't he? :o

HowlerMonkeyBelievesInAllan · 06/06/2013 22:13

Just finished reading thread.

Oh and your FIL is an arse, op.

Cailinsalach · 06/06/2013 22:29

I was committed to the Holy Roman Catholic faith until my enlightenment.

Allan be praised.

pointythings · 06/06/2013 22:38

We had our DDs christened - FIL was from Ulster originally, it mattered to him. We discussed it beforehand with him and told him that we were ultimately going to leave it up to them to decide what to believe and he had no problem with it. Because he wasn't a bigot, he and MIL just wanted the DDs christened.

I'm an Allanite too, it's DH's name. Grin. Did you know that Allan meant 'Way Out' or 'Exit' in Welsh? It could catch on - 'Allanism, the faith that always gives you a way out.'

ThistleVille · 06/06/2013 22:38

Err. Who's child is this .......?

mumofweeboys · 06/06/2013 22:42

Gotta love ni at times. Some protestants think that the catholic population is trying to breed the protestants out by mixed marrying and insisting the children are raised catholic - I kid u not - a person actually said this to me like its some massive catholic conspiracy. Utter madness

FairhairedAndFrustrated · 06/06/2013 22:49

Lol mumofweeboys, my plan has been rumbled!!!!

TheOneAndOnlyAllan · 06/06/2013 22:53

I'm liking this. curtseys

myroomisatip · 06/06/2013 23:31

:) Loving the 'Allan'! Priceless :)

I was christened Methodist but it really makes no difference to my beliefs, in fact, the last time I attended a Methodist church I was convinced the vicar (are they vicars?) was pointing directly at me all through his sermon about sinners.

I never went back.

I have not had my children christened, I do not believe that God would hold that against them. I just feel they should be free to make up their own minds.

Unfortunately your FIL sounds like a total bully and a bigot and in your place, I would completely ignore him.

Swipe left for the next trending thread