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To refuse to take 3 points on my licence for speeding when I wasn't the driver

253 replies

hmc · 16/01/2013 20:14

....because that's called perverting the course of justice and if found out it attracts a custodial sentence

I have a clean licence. They have a lot of points and need to drive for their job

OP posts:
MurderOfGoths · 17/01/2013 16:32

"40k per year of job based driving is a world away from the holier-than-thou drivers tootling between home, nursery and coffee morning each day, who are probably on the road for 10% of the time that your DH is"

So does this mean you think the more you earn and the more the drive the faster you can drive? You know it's not a computer game right? You don't earn "speed boosts"...

Twattybollocks · 17/01/2013 16:37

Sorry but if you are driving safely within the speed limit it makes no difference whether you drive 10k per year to and from school or 40k per year for work, you will not be caught for speeding. Doing lots of miles for work does not entitle you to exceed the speed limit and put other peoples lives at risk.

TooImmatureMincePies · 17/01/2013 16:42

Oh honestly. If you do the crime you do the time. At one point DH had, I think 11 points. 5 for speeding on a dual carriageway (the local police were having a crack-down on speeders, hence 5 at once), 3 for parking on zig zags outside Dominos while he ran in to get a pre-ordered pizza, and 3 because he answered his phone while driving. Yes, he was extremely pissed off when it happened, but he accepted that it was his fault. He took the risk, so he took the consequences. Nobody made my DH decide to answer his phone/park illegally/speed. Nobody made your DH speed either. He did that himself.

hellsbellsmelons · 17/01/2013 16:52

Well I don't consider myself inconsiderate but yes, I have hit 75 on a motorway at times and oopppsss.... I have looked down and I'm doing 32 or 33 in a 30 limit.
None of us are perfect!
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babadeems · 17/01/2013 16:58

Urgh, really gives me the rage when other drivers argue "well you can't keep to the speed limit all the time", "sometimes you don't realise you're going over" etc etc etc. FIL even comes out with "they can do you for going too slow too you know so it's not easy". No police officer in existence would 'do you' for going 25 in a 30 zone or 50 in a 60 zone so just go slower, it's not f*cking hard! Then if you do accidentally stray higher before you notice you've got a few miles in hand before you hit the limit.

An accident is dropping your keys on the floor when you lock the car - going over the speed limit so often that you get caught repeatedly is not an accident, it's a glaring sign that you're a self-entitled twat who shouldn't be allowed to control a vehicle designed for responsible adults.

MurderOfGoths · 17/01/2013 16:59

I've done 1 of those 20, and I can live with that because it's one that doesn't risk causing physical harm to others. You've got to be really fucking inconsiderate to do one of these;

  1. Speeding
  2. Talking on a mobile/texting while driving
16. Driving through a red light

Because they could all result in the death of someone.

lottiegarbanzo · 17/01/2013 17:00

Honestly OP's DH, your anger sounds like fear. Fear that you are not in control of your own destiny. Fear because you see speeding as something that happens to you, that could strike at any time. You have no confidence in your own ability to control your speed, so take charge of your destiny. You are reaching out for the nearest dependable person in helpless panic, hoping she can take your fear away and tell you it's all going to be ok, like a soothing mother.

Have you considered advanced driving lessons?

Mayanbob · 17/01/2013 17:08

The sentence for perverting the course of justice ' should be custody unless unjust to do so'

If OP takes points, and her DH is in the know (as obviously he is) then they would BOTH be charged with PCJ. Both potentially face a prison sentence- and who would care for any DC then?

Hope this puts into perspective the 'logic' behind what is being suggested here. Poor OP but at least you seem sensible

HoneyDragon · 17/01/2013 17:18

As I said earlier. Dh is this households sole earner. He drives s thousand miles a week. If he loses his job we don't earn. If he loses his job over 80 other people would end up unemployed too.

He doesn't speed of drive like a dickhead because he is a responsible grown adult who would not jeapordise ANYBODY else's livelihood or life.

HMC I hope your dh was panicking when he suggested it. He put you in a shitty position which you don't deserve.

Posterofapombear · 17/01/2013 17:19

I routinely drove 500 miles a day with young offenders in my car for 7 years.

No speeding tickets.

There is no excuse for driving like a twat.

Snorbs · 17/01/2013 17:51

I used to routinely do 30-35k a year. The only tickets I got were a couple of car park fines for over-staying what I'd paid for.

I did get done for speeding on my motorbike when I was young and very stupid. I took it on the chin, learned from my mistakes and wouldn't have dreamt of trying to off-load the points onto someone else.

I mean, how much of a cunt do you have to be to get caught doing something stupid and then try to land someone else in it?

amicissimma · 17/01/2013 18:08

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Sallyingforth · 17/01/2013 19:34

I mean, how much of a cunt do you have to be to get caught doing something stupid and then try to land someone else in it?

Ask the OP. She lives with one.

allgoingtoshitnow · 17/01/2013 19:41

How is taking 3 points for your DH because you have none, theres hardly any risk (it happens all the time) and he will lose his job if you dont 'landing someone in it'?

Its pretty simple. Take the points or dont fucking eat.

Anyone else think MurderOfGoths should shop herself for that time she did 34 in a 30 zone? I've no idea how she lives with that on her conscience.

GregBishopsBottomBitch · 17/01/2013 19:46

He shouldnt have been speeding, nor learned his lesson, tell him to fuck off.

minibmw2010 · 17/01/2013 20:04

What would he do if you take the points and the Police then say 'well actually that's all a bit strange because we can clearly see a male behind the wheel'. It is possible you know !!!

If the police are willing to prosecute an MP and his ex-wife for doing exactly this, then believe me they'll do it to you both as well.

MurderOfGoths · 17/01/2013 20:11

"Anyone else think MurderOfGoths should shop herself for that time she did 34 in a 30 zone?"

Hahaha. Good thing I've never done it really. Is it truly than unbelievable to you that someone is able to drive without going over the speed limit? It's not exactly difficult to do!

"How is taking 3 points for your DH because you have none, theres hardly any risk (it happens all the time) and he will lose his job if you dont 'landing someone in it'?"

Well quite, everyone knows that getting caught perverting the course of justice has no consequences whatsoever, in fact you win a prize for it!

Autumnchill · 17/01/2013 20:21

I deal with speeding tickets as part of my job and so I can not emphasis strongly enough the fact that you must not take these points however much he sulks.

He will have to basically learn to stick to the speed limit.

exexpat · 17/01/2013 20:38

allgoingtoshitnow aka hmc's DH, I suspect - the OP said in one of her earlier posts that these points weren't enough to make you her DH lose his licence, and therefore presumably lose your his job. If you they persist with the illegal plan of getting her to take the points, they could both end up with a criminal record, and possibly a jail sentence, which I can't imagine would do either of their careers or their family life any good.

I would hope that you the OP's DH will see this as a final warning and start to slow down a bit rather than getting his knickers in a twist and swearing at people when everyone on the internet says he is an idiot .

Veritate · 17/01/2013 20:43

"Its pretty simple. Take the points or dont fucking eat."

But that isn't the issue here. He won't lose his job for this. He will only lose his job if he is stupid enough to speed or commit another driving offence between now and March, when three of his current points come off the licence. The choice is entirely in his hands. It is utterly stupid to assume you won't be found out - the police do check the photos, particularly for people like this who already have a lot of points on their licence who may be more tempted to lie. If or when he is found out, he will certainly lose his job and have massive difficulty in finding another because he will have a record for dishonesty - and so will OP.

MurderOfGoths · 17/01/2013 20:49

"Its pretty simple. Take the points or dont fucking eat"

2 things.

1 - It's pretty simple. RTFT.
2 - Why should the OP be punished for something that isn't her fault?!

pointythings · 17/01/2013 20:53

allgoingtoshit I used to drive 30k miles a year - did it for almost 9 years, in fact. I have never had points on my license.

Also, depending on the car, if the OP's H was clocked at 79mph, then the speedo must have been showing more, and in the cases of some cars, a lot more. If you're inattentive enough not to notice that your speedometer is (probably) showing you going at 80+ mph, then you should not be on the road at all.

lottiegarbanzo · 17/01/2013 20:59

allgoingtoshitnow for someone doing an otherwise excellent impression of OP's DH, you don't seem to have grasped the basic elements of the story. He will only reach 12 points if he is caught speeding again before the end of March. Really interesting that you regard that as utterly inevitable.

(What would this bloke do without a wife he assumes he can browbeat into lying for him? Hmm. Not eat all by himself presumably. Pretty sad.)

And, calm down dear! (it might never happen, eh?)

hatgirl · 17/01/2013 21:21

I do 40k+ miles a year and have been driving for 10 years and have never had any points. Your H sounds like one of those people who drive a big Audi/BMW and just can't bear to be stuck behind someone like me who is sticking to the speed limit. Any of those points for being on his phone whilst driving by any chance?

My job and my professional status mean I have to keep a clean license. Therefore I don't speed, drink and drive, run red lights or take deliberate risks when I am driving. It really is that simple and your H as a grown man with responsibilities needs to realise that.

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