To refuse to take 3 points on my licence for speeding when I wasn't the driver

[hmc]

....because that's called perverting the course of justice and if found out it attracts a custodial sentence

I have a clean licence. They have a lot of points and need to drive for their job

Tell him to stop fucking speeding! Selfish arse that he is. Yanbu at all in anyway shape or form op.

No, flowery, that's not the point I was trying to make. I'm saying its very easy to take your eye off the ball for a minute, and before you know it you are above the limit. People are being very black-and-white about this subject.

And FWIW, I don't think that the op should take her dhs points, he needs to drive more responsibly in future or change jobs.

Don't forget that if you're caught doing 79 your speedo will have been registering higher - anything up to 10%. They never read low.

Tricksy - of course you don't have to watch your speedo 'like a hawk.' You just glance at it occasionally and remain aware of your engine noise. If there are distractions then you should slow down - the speed limit is an upper limit, not a target which must be reached.

What's not the point you are trying to make Tricksy? I wasn't responding to anyone in particular with my post.

It might also depend if the speed camera caught a photo of who was driving. Not sure if they would check but it is a consideration

I was responding to FloweryDrawers, unfortunate x post I think!

I am quite capable of checking the speedometer while driving safely. In the same way I can check blind spots, watch the road ahead, be aware of the cars behind me and read road signs while driving safely.

It's not just about the law. Speeding kills people. If he speeds he needs a wake up call before he kills you or your DC or my DC.

Not being judgemental-everyone can
make mistakes- but regular disregard for speed limits creates culture that speeding ok and then kids die (and actually 36 in a 30 will kill more children than 79 on 70)

YANBU

OP's DH, do you really think the police aren't wise to this sort of scam?

You sound like a selfish, inconsiderate knob who thinks he is above the law.

If you and OP end up with custodial sentences for attempting to pervert the course of justice, it will be a damn sight more inconvenient for your family than you potentially losing your licence.

I am not a slow driver. I like to put my foot down TBH. I also like having a clean licence and have managed to drive for 20 years without ever accumulating any points. Your DH needs to face the consequences of his actions and learn some self-control. Asking you to take his points is clear evidence of the fact that he's nowhere near that point yet. All that will happen is that he'll get your licence clogged up with points too, and probably still lose his own in the near future anyway. YANBU.

OP's H you need to grow up and start taking responsibility for your actions. This includes taking these points and making sure you learn to drive within the speed limits in future, something you don't seem capable of atm.

Of course you should take the points OP (assuming you were also in the car at the time and could argue confusion over who was driving if the police query it?).

If its a choice between your DH putting food on the table or not then its in the best interests of your family. He may not get banned this time but one more fine and hes lost his job. Is that a risk you are willing to take?

40k per year of job based driving is a world away from the holier-than-thou drivers tootling between home, nursery and coffee morning each day, who are probably on the road for 10% of the time that your DH is. IME such posters only view speed cameras as fair right until they get that first ticket. Then you cant shut them up over the injustice of it all.

Half the speed cameras are just there to generate money anyway. 87 on a countryside dual carriageway (?) is a little fast but not life threatening. Its not like it was 87 past a school. You just have to weigh up the risk of getting caught out in a lie though. And unless you are an MP I doubt you will end up in prison...

No way should the OP take the points as she would be convicted for perverting the course of justice which could see a prison sentence, the police know who was driving the car already through the video evidence.

TricksyLaBOOsh - bollocks. 'keeping up with the flow of traffic' does not mean speeding. If the child is distracting, pull over. you are a CRAP driver if you believe this.

all of you who think speeding is ok can piss off to your own desert island.

my DH has just come home. I am very lucky because he was on the receiving end of someone like you.

87 on a countryside dual carriageway (?) is a little fast but not life threatening

You're joking, right? More people get killed on non-motorway non-built-up roads (countryside dual carriageways essentially) than on motorways or in built up areas. 87 on a countryside dual carriageway is insane. (Thought the OP's H was doing 79 I think, still too much).

And they won't be able to "argue confusion over who was driving if the police query it?" with a photo.

ffs

those of you saying that its ok because its not near a school/village/town etc, are you flipping stupid or something?

there will be other car drivers on the road... some with families with them!! its very easy to lose control of a car, especially when its this cold outside and there's likely to be ice and/or snow.

also what would happen if someone else was to lose control of their car? it takes longer to stop when you're speeding!

jesus i honestly cant believe some of the posts on this thread

Sorry but I agree with allgoingtoshitnow.
If it means he can carry on working and earning the money then, if it was me, I'd take the points.
Many many people do this every day.
I'm very pleased there are soooo many drivers on MN that are angels in their cars and never ever exceed speed limits. Well done to you all!

Psst, HMC's DH, there's a trick to avoiding getting caught by the speed cameras, simple but always works. Are you listening?

Lean in closer...

Closer....

Bit closer so I can whisper to you, don't want everyone catching on to this trick...

IT'S CALLED DRIVING THE SPEED LIMIT YOU TWAT!

"I'm very pleased there are soooo many drivers on MN that are angels in their cars and never ever exceed speed limits. Well done to you all!"

Seriously?! You know it isn't difficult to drive the speed limit don't you? Is there a magnet attached to the bottom of your foot that means you can't help pressing the accelerator?

It's not being angelic. It's being sensible and actually giving a fuck about not hurting/killing others.

I have taken 3 for my dp ! Then again he did get 6 because I forgot the car insurance ran out 2 days before and he drove the car..

I know ppl who were prosecuted. So no ynbu

allgoingtoshit

I specifically posted about my DH who did 12K pa on top of driving a bus for 8+ hours a day. He drove with work and home driving 60 hrs + a week for years and managed 1 speeding ticket in 16 years.

Are you the OP's DH under your own log in now? Your post sounds very entitled and arrogant.

40k per year of job based driving is a world away from the holier-than-thou drivers tootling between home, nursery and coffee morning each day, who are probably on the road for 10% of the time that your DH is.

and more than a tad misogynistic

I was knocked off my bike on Saturday by a driver who was not paying attention. She was an idiot and I told her so. But fortunately other than shock and some bruising and damage to my bike and clothes which she said she would pay for, I was and am ok.

If she had been speeding, I would probably be dead.

OP - stand your ground, and tell your DH to pay more attention.

No allgoingtoshitnow the question is, is that a risk you are willing to take.

Btw, DP has driven all over the country for work for years. This situation just hasn't arisen and he has no points. That's because he's an adult who takes responsibility for his own actions.