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To have discplined my SILs children as she was doing nothing...??

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Shinyballsandtinsel · 15/12/2012 13:11

Two days ago, DH, me, our three DCs (9, 11, 13), granny, SIL and her two DCs went out for a meal in the evening (early about 7.00pm) for one of granny's landmark birthdays. We went to a chain pub, which later on turns into a club with bouncers on the door, no children after 9pm etc. It is in a town well known for stag/hen nights, however this time of year it is mostly Christmas parties.

It was very very busy, behind our table there were two long tables of about twenty people each, which looked like work do's. The bar was also very busy - there were steps leading down to the restaurant bit from the bar.

Our food arrived quite quickly. When we had finished our meal, we were waiting for the staff to bring plates for the birthday cake. My SILs older DC started running around and around the table very fast (aged 5yrs). SIL sat there doing nothing. Then the her younger DC started doing it also (aged 3yrs), whilst they were running the 3 year old ran into the legs of a fully laden waitress who nearly dropped all her plates. SIL still just sat there. They were running within close proximity of the people sitting on the end of the work do tables.

SIL was completely oblivious to it all, so I grabbed the 3yr old on his next run around, and plonked him down on a chair beside me, and said in quite a firm voice "sit down now, those people are having their dinner and Granny is about to have her cake". He immediately burst into tears, SIL glared at me, grabbed him on her lap. The 5 year old continued to run around the table, and then ran up the steps on her own into the bar area, my DH went to get her back, when she arrived back he put her onto her chair, she immediatley slid off under the table and started the running around thing again.

They have behaved like this before, I often make excuses for not going out when they are going to be there, as the children's behaviour, or rather the mother's complete oblivion to their behaviour actually winds me up. In the past she also literally just sits there whilst her children run around other people's tables, talk to strangers eating, ask if they can try some of their food (I kid you not!) and generally act as if they are in a playground. SIL has said in the past she thinks it cheers people up to see her kids smiley faces, and they are so freespirited and cute nobody could get annoyed with them..... Hence why I usually make my excuses, but as it was granny's landmark birthday couldn't get out of it.

Anyway, the saga continues - we all take it in turns to do Christmas dinner, this year is SILs turn to do it at her house. Today DH has received a telephone call to say that we are no longer invited for christmas day, as SIL is upset that I took it upon myself discipline her child, and it will ruin their Christmas if I do so again.

I am of the opinion that I am quite pleased not to have to go around there, and am happy to break away from the big family Christmas and start having Christmases at home with just our family, but Granny has now rung up very upset, and asked DH if I can apologise and make an excuse, i.e. say I was stressed at work or something.

I am not happy to do this, as I am not sorry. AIBU to not aplogise even though it will probably upset MIL?

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cees · 16/12/2012 22:32

YANBU

It's idiotic to think running around a busy restaurant is a super way to entertain kids. You did nothing wrong Shiny, your sil is a such a fool.

Shinyballsandtinsel · 16/12/2012 22:35

Just received a text back:

"Oh, ok. Mum says its around yours Boxing Day, what time do you want us? X"

Aaaaaarrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Must go for a bit, the kids need their Duracells changing for school......

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Shinyballsandtinsel · 16/12/2012 22:36

DH is obviously going to have a fun phone call tomorrow!

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Shinyballsandtinsel · 16/12/2012 22:36

How about twelve o'clock on the fucking twelfth of never?.....

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CaHoHoHootz · 16/12/2012 22:38
Shock

Seriously..... She really is nuts

BluelightsAndSirens · 16/12/2012 22:39

I think your Dh needs to speak to his mother.

SIL sounds nervous, maybe she has started to realise and is now back tracking at the thought of spending Christmas alone with her DC?

nkf · 16/12/2012 22:39

It sounds like she wants to patch things up without actually admitting to anything. Tricky one.

nkf · 16/12/2012 22:40

And I think if I were mum, I'd try to keep a lower profile. She sounds like she is trying to patch things up too.

CaHoHoHootz · 16/12/2012 22:42

MIL is not helping. Angry

ReallyNotTotallyStupidPromise · 16/12/2012 22:42

That sounds like a perfect time!

Text back. 'Sorry, there seems to have been a misunderstanding, we have only invited MIL around on Boxing Day, DH will drop the mini monsters childrens' presents around before CD'

Do not leave this up to DH or you will have the mini monsters at yours on BD!

ReallyNotTotallyStupidPromise · 16/12/2012 22:44

and you need to speak to your MIL and explain that she's not to make excuses for you or invite them to yours/things you have organised without discussing it with you first. I understand she wants you all to get along, but she needs to back off a bit - she can take my Mum with her to 'back off a bit land' :)

clam · 16/12/2012 22:44

Erm, did I miss the bit where YOU DIDN'T INVITE HER FOR BOXING DAY?!!

NamingOfParts · 16/12/2012 22:44

I agree that this one is down to MiL. MiL needs to explain to her DD that the invitation is for MiL only.

It does sound like MiL is trying to play happy families and negotiate a truce without realising that she is making things worse not better.

DontstepontheBaubles · 16/12/2012 22:46

You will definitely have to bite the bullet. Tell her the truth: it's a day just for your family and Granny. Give her an inch, she'll take a mile. You have no choice I think, this situation is untenable. Good luck.

Once this is dealt with, it will be a huge relief though.

BluelightsAndSirens · 16/12/2012 22:46

I think you should talk with your DH before replying. I mean the deal was he would speak to her tomorrow any way, why let her dictate when these conversations happen?

MIL needs to come out of the middle of this as well, she can have CD with the nutter and free spirits and then have a much iced day with op and her robots on Boxing Day, SIL musnt be allowed to invite herself again!

Angelico · 16/12/2012 22:47

YANBU. People like your SIL do my fucking head in. Under no circumstances apologise to her although you might want to apologise to MIL as the kind of innocent victim caught in the crossfire. Really tricky OP and I sympathise.

BluelightsAndSirens · 16/12/2012 22:48

Nicer not iced.

Shinyballsandtinsel · 16/12/2012 22:49

Ok, quick discussion with DH, sent a quick text:

"Sorry but we only meant MIL to come on BD as we have also invited my parents, as you know my dads not been well so he would find it hard to cope with small children running around. DH will phone you tomorrow to arrange to drop kids gifts off so they have them or CD."

Chicken I know using my dad, but it's sort of true.

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DontstepontheBaubles · 16/12/2012 22:49

I'd stop running everything past MIL and go straight to the horses mouth. As others have said, she is not helping matters. Or is SIL worried about missing out or being slagged off? This is just so bizarre, she just cannot take a hint at all. God knows what your MIL has said to her.

auntpetunia · 16/12/2012 22:49

I would be tempted to text back, sorry you've got that wrong Mil is invited you're not anyone who calls my children robot's is not welcome in my home, sure you understand as we don't like the dcs to be upset do we.!

then I would calling Mil and ask what she thought she was doing inviting SIL to your home without checking with you.

BabyGiraffes · 16/12/2012 22:49

I've been known to be blunt with my sister... My response would be simply 'You are not invited. Love xx'
Taught myself to not justify, not explain. People like this can't be reasoned with.

BabyGiraffes · 16/12/2012 22:51

xpost OP. You are more diplomatic than me Xmas Grin. I am sure you'll have a fab christmas with your little robots Xmas Grin

auntpetunia · 16/12/2012 22:51

Oops x posted good reply, do you think she'll take the hint?

Shinyballsandtinsel · 16/12/2012 22:52

In all honesty, I expect SIL tried to get MIL upset about not seeing GC on Christmas Day, and MIL would have told her she was coming on BD. SIL would have then invited herself along, and MIL wouldn't have enlightened her.

I wonder what it must be like to be so thick-skinned!

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Skyla2 · 16/12/2012 22:53

It sounds like there are two things in question, A - you did what you thought was best, and right (so no, I think an apology is a no no.) However the family Christmas is a whole different thing. What it really boils down to, is whether or not you'd like to be a part of the big family do~? For peace sakes, a DH family chat and a joint decision is the way forward. Feuds are a waste of time and worry, a little chat goes a long way, sounds like SIL's been worn down by her DS's - maybe show her an olive branch Xmas Smile Hope you have a lovely Christmas either way.