Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To have discplined my SILs children as she was doing nothing...??

965 replies

Shinyballsandtinsel · 15/12/2012 13:11

Two days ago, DH, me, our three DCs (9, 11, 13), granny, SIL and her two DCs went out for a meal in the evening (early about 7.00pm) for one of granny's landmark birthdays. We went to a chain pub, which later on turns into a club with bouncers on the door, no children after 9pm etc. It is in a town well known for stag/hen nights, however this time of year it is mostly Christmas parties.

It was very very busy, behind our table there were two long tables of about twenty people each, which looked like work do's. The bar was also very busy - there were steps leading down to the restaurant bit from the bar.

Our food arrived quite quickly. When we had finished our meal, we were waiting for the staff to bring plates for the birthday cake. My SILs older DC started running around and around the table very fast (aged 5yrs). SIL sat there doing nothing. Then the her younger DC started doing it also (aged 3yrs), whilst they were running the 3 year old ran into the legs of a fully laden waitress who nearly dropped all her plates. SIL still just sat there. They were running within close proximity of the people sitting on the end of the work do tables.

SIL was completely oblivious to it all, so I grabbed the 3yr old on his next run around, and plonked him down on a chair beside me, and said in quite a firm voice "sit down now, those people are having their dinner and Granny is about to have her cake". He immediately burst into tears, SIL glared at me, grabbed him on her lap. The 5 year old continued to run around the table, and then ran up the steps on her own into the bar area, my DH went to get her back, when she arrived back he put her onto her chair, she immediatley slid off under the table and started the running around thing again.

They have behaved like this before, I often make excuses for not going out when they are going to be there, as the children's behaviour, or rather the mother's complete oblivion to their behaviour actually winds me up. In the past she also literally just sits there whilst her children run around other people's tables, talk to strangers eating, ask if they can try some of their food (I kid you not!) and generally act as if they are in a playground. SIL has said in the past she thinks it cheers people up to see her kids smiley faces, and they are so freespirited and cute nobody could get annoyed with them..... Hence why I usually make my excuses, but as it was granny's landmark birthday couldn't get out of it.

Anyway, the saga continues - we all take it in turns to do Christmas dinner, this year is SILs turn to do it at her house. Today DH has received a telephone call to say that we are no longer invited for christmas day, as SIL is upset that I took it upon myself discipline her child, and it will ruin their Christmas if I do so again.

I am of the opinion that I am quite pleased not to have to go around there, and am happy to break away from the big family Christmas and start having Christmases at home with just our family, but Granny has now rung up very upset, and asked DH if I can apologise and make an excuse, i.e. say I was stressed at work or something.

I am not happy to do this, as I am not sorry. AIBU to not aplogise even though it will probably upset MIL?

OP posts:
BluelightsAndSirens · 16/12/2012 21:25

Molly as helpful as your ideas may well be the thread has moved on by a mere 20 pages and your advice is a little bit late I'm afraid.

Mollydoggerson · 16/12/2012 21:25

Point taken, but in my defence, the thread is 21 pages long!

xkittyx · 16/12/2012 21:25

Molly are you actually suggesting that the OP should have stayed at home with SIL's bratty kids?
Even though this was meant to be a trip for the OP and her husband to take his mum out for a meal and SIL invited herself along?

MrsFlibble · 16/12/2012 21:26

9pm bedtime, tbh is far too late for a 3 year old, not so much for a 5 yr old.

SpecialAgentKat · 16/12/2012 21:26

MrsFlibble you allowed it to get to that stage?! Shock You should give up on her. Just let her roam free with the children from Hell. (That includes SIL)

tuts about kids these days

Mollydoggerson · 16/12/2012 21:27

xkittyx no I was suggesting whichever parent of the small children wasn't related to the birthday girl, should have stayed home with the kids.

MrsFlibble · 16/12/2012 21:28

Special lol, DD is actually rather well behaved, her mouth just works quicker than her brain.

Mollydoggerson · 16/12/2012 21:29

For all those giving out to me about posting without reading the updates, please read my updates above (joke!).

xkittyx · 16/12/2012 21:29

So Molly that would be the OP then, so you were saying that.

stifnstav · 16/12/2012 21:29

You do realise that every time those kids fuck about and tantrum in future, you'll have to say "Ah, such vibrant personalities" and smile sweetly!

Asinine · 16/12/2012 21:29

Shiney

You're on the right track IMO. Just let her continue to behave badly, she is making a mountain out of a molehill. People like your SIL love a drama, just maintain your own dignity and peace. That will be the biggest wind up of all; the audience has left the building unless she's on mn .

MrsFlibble · 16/12/2012 21:32

If she was in MN, she should be mortified after 21 pages of us, discussing her non existent parenting.

SpecialAgentKat · 16/12/2012 21:33

About five posters have made the point about a small child friendly environment being chosen. It says in the OP that she and DH organised the meal and SIL invited herself. There wasn't supposed to be a 3yr there in the first place.

Secondly, even if a 'child friendly' place had been chosen.... Waitresses still carry plates/hot drinks, people still don't want to be asked if they can have sticky little fingers shoved in their plates, and running around is still not acceptable. It's still dangerous, and it's still annoying as fuck to everyone else.

So a bit of a red herring anyway IMO

Jacksmania · 16/12/2012 21:34

FFS!!!!
If you see that a thread has 20+ pages, chances are it's not a simple matter of only reading and commenting on the OP.

SpecialAgentKat · 16/12/2012 21:37

OP is a lot nicer than me. I'd email her this link on Christmas eve, unplug the phone then blame my robots after her ruined Christmas.

Seriously OP, I'm impressed with your restraint. I'd be baying for blood if anyone called my kids robots.

It'll be fun when the kids hit puberty, are full of hormones and their 'smiley faces' disappear and the 'vibrant personalities' remain...Xmas Grin

Rudolphstolemycarrots · 16/12/2012 21:38

'sorry we didn't mena to upset you SIL. We were worried that the kids would ruin Grannys special meal with their bad behavior'.

WillSingForCake · 16/12/2012 21:39

OP your reply was perfect. So dignified! I'd love to be like you, I'd have descended to her level, got into a slagging match, & would've regretted not rising above it all.

Rudolphstolemycarrots · 16/12/2012 21:41

I can understand how they were ruining your time in the pub and everyone elses.

ShipwreckedUnderTheTree · 16/12/2012 21:44

You do realise that every time those kids fuck about and tantrum in future, you'll have to say "Ah, such vibrant personalities" and smile sweetly!

Genius!! Pmsl!

Shinyballsandtinsel · 16/12/2012 21:47

I've done my fair share of texting arguments in the past, it never ends well which I try to remember before I fire off an inital reactive text. Also, as some of you recognise that could be falling into her hands.

I don't think SIL uses MN, but she would have no difficulty identifying herself, after all how many SILs would have recently called their brother's children robots?!

OP posts:
flow4 · 16/12/2012 21:50

Lots, but most of them privately...? Grin

PessaryPam · 16/12/2012 21:55

Never robots but then I am a stricty person.

Rudolphstolemycarrots · 16/12/2012 22:06

"Mum has told me you are busy at work and stressed, so I am prepared to forgive and forget about you upsetting DC on Thursday. I know they were running around, but I prefer my children to have personalities, not be little robots like yours. See you on Christmas Day, come about 11am. SIL x"

OMG just read this!

How about 'think there must have been a misunderstanding as I'm not stressed at work. The kids running around into waitresses with hot drinks was stressful/dangerous though! DH and I have decided to have Christmas in our own home this year. Nobody else considers our children to be robots or lacking in personality by the way. What an unkind thing to say.

exoticfruits · 16/12/2012 22:23

If she does recognise herself on here it could be a good thing and make her think!

BoneyBackJefferson · 16/12/2012 22:32

Mollydoggerson
"I think the choice of venue was extremely un-(small) child friendly . It was also late for them so they were probably hyper. I think the family could have chosen a more suitable venue for all invited to the party, they didn't and as a result there is a fall out."

Just to add one more post to the others RTFT