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Dp totally flipped out, says it's my fault?

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snowflakesoutside · 01/11/2012 17:49

Yesterday evening, normal enough we're watching tv and looking on net for a nice recipe for the weekend.

Then I started to show him a toy castle which I wanted us to get for ds, he looks and nods, doesn't seem too interested. Says Christmas is ages away anyway, and we'd be better of just looking in Toys R Us at the weekend. So I say that perhaps, but this ones on offer and Toys R Us can be expensive, then go and find the same one there and show him. Then he says "what does it do anyway, does it have a lift or anything or else what's he going to do just look at it?". By this point I'm bemused and point out that if it was a dolls house he wouldn't be saying that and how kids don't need a toy to be all singing all dancing to play they'll make their own game.

It went on for another few minutes with me then showing him another toy ans asking what he thought about that and he just snapped saying he wasn't interested right now and just wants to relax and to just forget it, I snapped back asking what's up with him tonight and he's being a bit selfish to which he told me to fuck off and threw the tv remote hard across the room at the table so the back came off and the batteries flew out, also knocked the vase off the table and water all up the wall, and bounced off the table smashing ds's digger in two. Then he stormed out, I went after him asking what the hells up with him and can he go and pick up the mess. I was standing in the hall in front of the front door and he grabbed me by the wrists to drag me out of the way. He grabbed me so hard that afterwards me wrists were red raw and I have a small bruise today and he stormed out.

He came back in afterwards and just blamed me. He said I pushed him too far, and that if I hadn't tried to stop him going out he wouldn't have hurt my arms. All he kept saying is he hadn't done anything wrong and I kept on at him when all he wanted to do was relax and watch tv. Then he softened and did apologise and said he was tired. But it wasn't until later on that he really aknowledged he'd even done anything wrong and even then he said I was pushing him too far.

I didn't even realise until this morning that ds digger had smashed and had to lie to ds who spotted it straight away and say I must have stood on it by accident. The remotes also broke now and the back won't clip on properly.

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HoratiaWinWOOHOOHOOHOOd · 01/11/2012 18:53

OP , what you did would have pissed me off, and I probably wouldn't have been terribly polite to you.

But because I'm not a complete childish arsehole I would have stopped short of throwing things, breaking things, and using my physical superiority (16st v 9st) to hurt my partner.

Normal people say "I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you, I just lost my temper". Saying instead "it isn't my fault: you made me do it" is what potential or actual abusers say.

Advising the OP not to get in her partner's face another time isn't excusing DV; it is teaching her how to be a grown-up.

fatfingers · 01/11/2012 18:53

Has anyone read the OP's second post? The reason he wouldn't discuss the Christmas presents was because she wouldn't let him rest his legs on her. This is not the first time he has behaved like this. He seems to have been looking for any excuse to have a go at her on this occasion because she wasn't doing what he wanted i.e. showering him with attention.

What normally happens after he has been aggressive OP? Does he always just blame you and think he's done nothing wrong?

kim147 · 01/11/2012 18:54

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MrsTerryPratchett · 01/11/2012 18:54

OP do you want this to be moved into Relationships or start a new thread there? I'm worried you are going to have a relationship that gets more violent and put up with it because people on MN tell you that you are annoying and deserve it.

MrsKeithRichards · 01/11/2012 18:55

Who has said she provoked him?

ScrambledSmegs · 01/11/2012 18:58
Shock

He's violent bully. He thinks what he did is perfectly ok because he was 'provoked'. WHY are people trying to excuse him? I don't get it at all.

Why are so many people falling over themselves to blame the OP?

What the actual fuck?

Proudnscary · 01/11/2012 18:59

I agree Eleanor, it's depressing. Yes there has been victim blaming - the very opposite message that Mumsnet is supposed to be all about.

But many of us have told OP it is not, nor ever can be, her fault if this man chooses to react with violence and aggression.

I agree and said upthread that OP will get better support and understanding on Relationships.

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/11/2012 19:00

The OP's H for one MrsKeithRichards.

NanettaStocker · 01/11/2012 19:02

I can't believe some of these responses. Discussing Christmas presents is nagging?

It's not your fault at all. You are in no way to blame for this. No adult should respond the way he did.

snowflakesoutside · 01/11/2012 19:03

What am I going to do? Well I have been for a while questioning our compatibility. And even more so now but I'm not totally happy in the relationship and am seriously considering ending it.

I disagree that I'm as annoying as people are making out or that I have no people skills but perhaps it's how I've come across in my posts. I'm generally a nice kind supportive partner who has put up with a lot of moodswings from someone who gets extremely moody and volatile when tired/hungry/stressed but I wouldn't like to say more or else I may be accused of drip feeding.

I admit pestering someone who isn't really interested is probably annoying but as I said I'm fed up with dp lack of interest in things despite all the interest I show in 'his things'. Perhaps I shouldn't have followed him but I felt that his initial reaction was out of order and was angry at that point myself that he'd smashed the remote, dp doesn't live with us so it was my stuff he was breaking and I feel in general that he's got no respect for my things and in the moment felt like he should bloody pick up what he'd thrown.

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Pagwatch · 01/11/2012 19:04

She didn't/couldn't have provoked him. She could have spent the day following him and saying whatever she could think of to wind him up and still he is the person to blame.

Her behaviour is only noteworthy to me because it indicates that they interact in a really odd and unsympathetic way. I think that's what a few people have commented upon with in anyway suggesting that he has any excuse or was 'provoked'.

WorraLiberty · 01/11/2012 19:05

No discussing christmas presents is not nagging.

It's silly statements like that, that tend to take the thread off on a tangent.

I think it's quite clear to everyone that simply discussing christmas presents was not the catalyst here.

MrsKeithRichards · 01/11/2012 19:05

He doesn't live with you? So he was trying to go home?

Why doesn't he live with you, is he ds's dad?

kim147 · 01/11/2012 19:05

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fatfingers · 01/11/2012 19:06

If he doesn't live with you I would tell him to stay away for a few days so that you can consider whether you want to be with someone like him.

SunflowersSmile · 01/11/2012 19:06

Is your ds his ds too?
Sorry if this has been clarified but got confused when you said he does not live with you.

Pagwatch · 01/11/2012 19:07

X-posted

It is really unhealthy.
It makes sense that you were persisting in spite of his irritation if this is how he always reacts. And if he is angry and moody all the time then I would be exasperated too.
He ou ds really childish and self absorbed

Shelby2010 · 01/11/2012 19:09

Is he your ds's father? If he isn't & doesn't live with you, then perhaps less surprising he isn't interested in kids toys. But much easier to get rid of him! Sounds like your relationship has reached a dead end.

WorraLiberty · 01/11/2012 19:09

He doesn't live with you?

So you were preventing him from going home when you stood in his way and he dragged you away from the door?

I'm just trying to see this in reverse.

If he stood in your way when you were angry and preventing you from going home, there'd be cries of "bully" and "poor diddums" because you made his wrists red when you moved him in order to get out.

I really think you two should probably call it a day for all your sakes...especially your DS.

snowflakesoutside · 01/11/2012 19:09

Bascially he'd come in I'd done his dinner as always, he had as always the length of the sofa with his legs draped over me and the tv remote, I thought I was just having a general chat and trying to show him something.

As I pointed out to dp, when I go to my mums house she always wants to show me her craft things that she's made, very often I'm not in the mood for looking but she persists in showing me every single thing that she's made. I don't flip out and throw her things I smile and humour her and act interested because I love her and know it's important to her.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 01/11/2012 19:10

snowflake don't focus on the people who think you are annoying. I managed to discuss Christmas presents with DH last night even though he is not remotely interested without him throwing things and assaulting me.

I think you need to consider your timeline to end this relationship. Keep yourself and your DC safe.

NanettaStocker · 01/11/2012 19:13

Worra - the words nagging and nag are used repeatedly by different posters on this thread. I don't think it is clear to some posters.

SunflowersSmile · 01/11/2012 19:14

If your ds not his and he does not live with you that would make the relationship easier to end- if that is what you want.

snowflakesoutside · 01/11/2012 19:15

worra I take your point but am wondering if perhaps I should have put more in my op now because I think I've given the wrong impression of myself.

Yes you could say I was preventing him from going home, but, he does this sort of thing too much, over minor things, and when I don't 'go after him' he usually comes back after 10 minutes asking why I let him go and that I don't care about him. I don't feel that I was preventing him from leaving as I said he's almost twice my weight he could have easily left without hurting me, I didn't go to stop him leaving I went to see why he'd just flung the tv remote.

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KnickersOnOnesHead · 01/11/2012 19:17

Might of been better then if you wasn't drip feeding.