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Pictures of children on Facebook?

223 replies

HappyHippie · 26/08/2012 10:47

This is very upsetting. DD (5) spent the whole day with my sister yesterday, and this morning she posted a picture of her on Facebook. I asked my sister to remove it and she said she's done so, but she unfriended me as well. AIBU? :(

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minikimmi · 26/08/2012 12:48

^ this post from tittytittyhanghang speaks volumes to me really.
You'd honestly let a social networking site cause ructions in your family? Get a grip.

OneMoreChap · 26/08/2012 12:54

minikimmi Sun 26-Aug-12 11:22:42
What you mean, like real life? The fact of the matter is everyone I know has people on FB who they are not particularly close with.

nah, not everyone, surely?
It happens. You can't personally vet everyone who is a FB 'friend'.

Why on earth not? If I don't know them IRL, and wouldn't be happy seeing stuff about me I don't friend them. I don't friend people at work, either. Unless they are friends.

Just because I add a work colleague who I may have a reasonably good working relationship with doesn't mean I know every little detail of their life.

I tkae it you do know every little detail of their life if they are a friend IRL then?

Anyone who says they know everyone on their FB friends list inside out is a liar.

Surely misguided?
I'd say no-one knows all their friends inside out but san fairy ann.

Empusa · 26/08/2012 12:54

"It's their property. They do whatever they want with it, now and in the future when technology has moved on and new things become possible. "

No, they can't. The only rights you sign over to them are the right for themto make it display on a variety of media.

Copyright will always remain with the photographer.

"Many popular web sites share with FB every time you log into them."

They can't unless you give them permission to.

"WOne use rumoured to be worked on is cameras in shops connected to FB's commercial partners, that will recognise you and greet you "Hi there PooPoo, thanks for coming into Supercrap today!", either on a screen or by texting your phone."

Hahahaha!

honeytea · 26/08/2012 12:58

People need to understand how FB works before they start saying 'one little picture won't do any harm'. When you post a pic on FB, you are relinquishing your right to that photo. Facebook 'owns' it, and they will do forever, it's in the t&cs. Even when you deactivate, that photo stays on FB's servers forever and ever.

I'm not sure what OP's dd and sis were doing yesterday but I assume it was not something so very interesting that fb would have any reason to use the image. Child at park on a swing isn't really a rare and valuble immage.

i also don't think that pictures of my children, even though they are clearly the Most Amazing Children Ever, are of any interest to anybody else (apart from the seemingly interested relatives in question) and therefore see no need to be particularly precious about them.

I agree with this.

I think that if you allow your did to take dc out then you have to respect what she chooses to do with your child, the easy thing to do would be to say I don't want you to take dc out again as you don't follow all my rules. I think a lovely relationship with an involved aunt is more important than avoiding an innocent image turning up on facebook.

minikimmi · 26/08/2012 12:59

headdesk

tittytittyhanghang · 26/08/2012 12:59

Meh, unfriending them on fb doesn't mean im unfriending them in rl. It just means they are not on my fb. If they are the sort of person to be a dramallama because they're not getting to see whats on my fb, when previously they weren't happy what was on my fb, then I don't think i would be overly bothered if they decided to not speak to me in rl, they can keep they melodramatics to themselves then. They would be causing ructions, not me.

minikimmi · 26/08/2012 13:03

FAO empusa

facebook dirty deeds

Sallyingforth · 26/08/2012 13:04

Empusa You are wrong.

You hereby grant Facebook an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to (a) use, copy, publish, stream, store, retain, publicly perform or display, transmit, scan, reformat, modify, edit, frame, translate, excerpt, adapt, create derivative works and distribute (through multiple tiers), any User Content you (i) Post on or in connection with the Facebook Service or the promotion thereof subject only to your privacy settings or (ii) enable a user to Post, including by offering a Share Link on your website and (b) to use your name, likeness and image for any purpose, including commercial or advertising, each of (a) and (b) on or in connection with the Facebook Service or the promotion thereof.

Nore here:
consumerist.com/2009/02/facebooks-new-terms-of-service-we-can-do-anything-we-want-with-your-content-forever.html

As for the face recognition thing, you can 'hahaha' all you like but that won't stop it (and other applications) from happening. The technology is available now and it is only waiting for more reliable recognition software.

minikimmi · 26/08/2012 13:05

Amazed at the naïveté of some of you lot...

PenisVanLesbian · 26/08/2012 13:05

2009? Thats like a hundred years ago in internet terms. They have changed t&c's many times since then.

Sallyingforth · 26/08/2012 13:06

minikimmi
Thanks for the link. I couldn't find it when I needed it.

TheQueenOfDiamonds · 26/08/2012 13:06

I think you're within your rights to ask for it to be removed, But i also think you're being paranoid.

GlassofRose · 26/08/2012 13:11

What you mean, like real life? The fact of the matter is everyone I know has people on FB who they are not particularly close with. It happens. You can't personally vet everyone who is a FB 'friend'. Just because I add a work colleague who I may have a reasonably good working relationship with doesn't mean I know every little detail of their life. Anyone who says they know everyone on their FB friends list inside out is a liar.

When adding people on facebook or accepting their friend request think. If you cannot say yes to
"Am I okay with this person seeing my facebook content" then do not have them as a friend. Keep all your settings to friends only... if you do not trust who your friend may show your pictures to, why the fuck are they your friends?

I can guarantee I trust every facebook friend I have... if you don't then you've got the wrong people on there.

minikimmi · 26/08/2012 13:15

I don't use facebook because I'm not an attention seeking drone.

McHappyPants2012 · 26/08/2012 13:17

For those who say a photo on Facebook is not a big deal it is to some people.

I hate having my photo taken and since social network site have become very popular it has been alot worse.

I do think children's privacy should be taking into consideration before posting pictures of them.

mellen · 26/08/2012 13:18

The other thing that you can do on facebook is to create a list of closer friends/family etc, and then when you update status or add pictures you can decide whether to share with friends or do a custom share with the smaller group.

minikimmi · 26/08/2012 13:18

When I think of Facebook users these days I just imagine Jeremy Kyle types.

PenisVanLesbian · 26/08/2012 13:19

When I think of ott FB haters I just imagine smug superior fools with little actual understanding of social networking sites who are stuck in the last century.

Empusa · 26/08/2012 13:20

SallyingForth That is a quote from a ToS that caused such an uproar that they had to scrap it and write a new one. The current ToS I quoted above.

The link you posted is from 2009, during said uproar.

MyDogShitsMoney · 26/08/2012 13:21

Please don't miss this very important piece of Empusa's quote

subject only to your privacy settings

GlassofRose · 26/08/2012 13:21

I don't use facebook because I'm not an attention seeking drone.

Oh yes, I can see that. Making statements like the one above and this:

When I think of Facebook users these days I just imagine Jeremy Kyle types.

is no way attention seeking is it... Hmm Grin

minikimmi · 26/08/2012 13:23

When I think of ott FB haters I just imagine smug superior fools with little actual understanding of social networking sites who are stuck in the last century
When I see adults use the word haters I think 'grow up sweetie, my teenager uses that word.
And fyi, people who aren't morons moved on to Twitter years ago.

PenisVanLesbian · 26/08/2012 13:24

It's like people wanting films banned that they haven't seen...down with that sort of thing.
"I don't use FB but here is everything that is wrong with it that I've gleaned from a bizarre collection of tinfoil hat sites and gossip"
Hmm

GlassofRose · 26/08/2012 13:26

When I see adults use the word haters I think 'grow up sweetie, my teenager uses that word.
And fyi, people who aren't morons moved on to Twitter years ago.

So Twitter is less Moronic than Facebook.

You can have privacy settings on both, Status updates on both.... sharing photos on both... same kind of policies on both.

Oh yes... your totally not moronic Hmm

minikimmi · 26/08/2012 13:27

*you're