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To think that Ian Brady...

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KittyFane1 · 17/08/2012 20:29

is playing a sick game.
His final victim is Winnie Johnson who is desperate to find her son Keith Bennet on the moors. She has terminal cancer and not long to live.
IB has been on hunger strike for years and wants to move out of the psychiatric hospital.
There is now, or rather, may or may not be a letter revealing where Keith is. Tormenting this woman in her final days.

Would it be unreasonable to tell IB that he can be moved if he stops this sick game, refusing to say where Keith is buried and if he does, not give him what he wants after all?

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Glitterknickaz · 17/08/2012 20:30

It's a tricky one tbh.
Brady is a sadist and this is the greatest act of sadism he's inflicted upon anyone. I'm sure he enjoys that.

They're the actions of someone who does need psych treatment.

SirBoobAlot · 17/08/2012 20:31

He never will though. Its part of the sick control, and the final pleasure of what he's done. Poor woman.

KittyFane1 · 17/08/2012 20:33

He loves it I'm sure. He's tormenting Keith's mother in her final days.
I'm not saying actually take IB out of hospital, just lead him to believe that this will happen if he shares the information he is holding as his final card.

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KittyFane1 · 17/08/2012 20:36

sirboob I agree. The latest publicity about 'the letter' gets to me. He'll be loving it. I wish there was no publicity. That this investigation could go on without him having the spotlight shone on him. Ugh.

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LindyHemming · 17/08/2012 20:37

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KittyFane1 · 17/08/2012 20:39

Euph that word is not strong enough. There actually is no word.

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Morph2 · 17/08/2012 20:40

i don't know what area of the country but how accurate could he be after all these years?

JumpingThroughHoops · 17/08/2012 20:41

he has left a letter with his solicitor, to be given to Winnie Bennett upon his death.

Who made that public? why?

Glitterknickaz · 17/08/2012 20:41

Yeah. Not even the C word cuts it.

KittyFane1 · 17/08/2012 20:42

morph that's part of the problem. The moors are huge but he will have taken certain routes and parked in particular laybys. He will have a vague idea.

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mignonette · 17/08/2012 20:44

There is no real 'treatment' as such for APD, only for any concurrent psychosis. DBT can help with some personality disorders but not his.

JumpingThroughHoops · 17/08/2012 20:45

i don't know what area of the country but how accurate could he be after all these years?

I've read extensively on this today. Brady has been in prison 46 years. The moors will "shift" due the nature of the soil. A motorway has been put through the same area. Hindley went up and (I think) did her best but the landscape had shifted so much. She wanted her freedom. Brady wants to die - he's still sharp enough to have struck a deal to secure the removal of force feeding in return for death.

Seeing as the letter isn't yet (a) discovered (b) opened, it's all a bit premature to speculate exactly what is in it.

KittyFane1 · 17/08/2012 20:45

jumping exactly. Why is this public information?!
Open it after his death? I don't think so! What rights has he?
The letter gets opened now. That's what the police are doing I imagine.

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AgentZigzag · 17/08/2012 20:45

I don't feel as strongly about any other murderer as I do about Brady, even if he is ill.

The heartbreaking games he plays with Winnie Johnson just cut to the bone, it rips her apart to know her sons body is out in an isolated and bleak moor somewhere, I don't know how she's managed all these years. Going on what she says to the media, it still continues to blight her life after 50 years.

I really don't think he'll ever say, that is if he does know anyway, I wouldn't put it past him to have just implied he did for all this time.

Agree with Euphemia.

floweryblue · 17/08/2012 20:46

We have no idea of the content of the 'letter'. It seems unlikely that he will suddenly remember where Keith's body is if he couldn't find it when he and Myra helped the police find Pauline Read's body.

Birdsgottafly · 17/08/2012 20:47

There is a thread about this 'in the news'.

Brady and Hindley photographed themselves on the graves and these were exchanged between them with criptic messages, even when they were in prison, so when Hindley was taken on the Moores they used these and old airial photo's of the Moores.

Pickles77 · 17/08/2012 20:47

How do they force feed him?Confused

Secrecy · 17/08/2012 20:47

Hopefully they're telling him NOTHING of the publicity and possible effect on the poor mother.

ChuffMuffin · 17/08/2012 20:48

And I bet the letter will say something like "I won". Utter fucking cunt he is.

JumpingThroughHoops · 17/08/2012 20:48

the solicitor was originally arrested for "preventing a burial" - it's a sealed letter (if it exists) - she cannot verbatim know what is in it.

AgentZigzag · 17/08/2012 20:48

I don't think if he does reveal where Keith is it'll be 'suddenly remembered' flowery, if he knows he would have kept it as a secret he could use to make himself feel as though he has a measure of power. (at a guess, as I've had no contact with Brady myself)

KittyFane1 · 17/08/2012 20:49

He doesn't want to play his final card. He knows what happened and the only way he can get his kicks locked away is to do this.

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mignonette · 17/08/2012 20:49

NG tube. Peg feed unlikely due to probability of him tampering with it.

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 17/08/2012 20:49

Surely they must have opened this letter if there is one?

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